A few new postings

Hi All

I’ve just opened up ‘freewaytalk’ and found that I had a few new postings.

In fact 62,264 in ‘FreewayTalk’, 5,653 in ‘Off Topic’ and 2,024 in ‘ActionsDev’

Has any body else had this or is it just me??

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Yep, same here. Seems that the mechanism for keeping track of that has been reset to show that all topics were not read. Just reset in the My Account section for message counts.


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Hi

At least it wasn’t just me. I know I like reading, but…

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Actually, if you leave it alone, it should reset itself. The table that tracks who has read what had grown to over 12 million rows, and it wasn’t playing nice any more. I emptied it, and am running a script that resets everyone’s counters to 0. (Sorry, Keith! I know you liked to see how high it could go…)

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Hi Walter

Thanks for the information…

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Now I seem to be getting the opposite result where there are no new message counts at all even though new messages are there.


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Go to your My Account page and press the Clean up Unread Counts
button. If that doesn’t fix it, then it’s broken by my last patch, and
I’ll try to fix it. I’m still seeing oddness here, so you’re not
alone, and it’s going to get better.

Walter

On Feb 19, 2011, at 12:37 PM, chuckamuck wrote:

Now I seem to be getting the opposite result where there are no new
message counts at all even though new messages are there.


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Test post, please ignore.


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Another test.


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Hi Walter

So far so good, working how it should be.

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Walt, I still am not seeing red new message counts, particularly for Freewaytalk. I even went to the extreme of canceling subscription to list and resubbing with no success. Clear message count doesn’t help either as I have done it now multiple times.


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If it makes you feel any better, I’m seeing the problem intermittently here as well. I have to spend some quality time with this system, because it’s clearly not sustainable as is, and we seem to have hit a tipping point with the sheer number of records in the table.

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Walt, I still am not seeing red new message counts, particularly for Freewaytalk.

Ditto

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Okay, everybody who’s affected, try visiting this page http://freewaytalk.net/person/edit
and pressing Clean up Unread Counts (down below the Forum
Memberships box). I just spotted a very simple math error, so if I’m
right, it should work now after the update.

Walter

On Feb 28, 2011, at 1:41 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Walt, I still am not seeing red new message counts, particularly
for Freewaytalk.

Ditto

David


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Aw hell, that wasn’t it. Sorry for the false hope.

Walter

On Feb 28, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

Okay, everybody who’s affected, try visiting this page http://freewaytalk.net/person/edit
and pressing Clean up Unread Counts (down below the Forum
Memberships box). I just spotted a very simple math error, so if I’m
right, it should work now after the update.

Walter

On Feb 28, 2011, at 1:41 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Walt, I still am not seeing red new message counts, particularly
for Freewaytalk.

Ditto

David


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As an alternative, would it be possible to change the color of message headers in the list from darker to lighter for messages that have been read? I’m guessing it would be the same problem as currently exists, I just thought i’d throw it out there and see if it bounces.


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I’ve been giving this some thought lately, and I don’t have any good
answers yet. Ideally, I’d like to off-load this calculation to the
browser, after all, there’s a very good built-in method for this on a
per-item level – the :visited pseudo-selector in CSS. But the issue
is that there’s no decent way to calculate how many unread messages
there are per forum using that mechanism. Particularly because you can
browse threads in any order you like.

Walter

On Mar 2, 2011, at 11:36 AM, chuckamuck wrote:

As an alternative, would it be possible to change the color of
message headers in the list from darker to lighter for messages that
have been read? I’m guessing it would be the same problem as
currently exists, I just thought i’d throw it out there and see if
it bounces.


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Using the visited method is what I had in mind, but I see the problem with keeping track of the count. How is that done on normally bulletin boards? I assume it’s a tracked database field?


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Well, I’ve probably got too far to the extreme with the system I’ve
built here. I track the intersection of each person with each thread.
Each time you visit a thread, that corresponding history record is
updated with the current count of messages in that thread. This way
you can visit threads out of order, and the number of unread messages
will remain correct (in theory). I could try tracking the number of
posts in a forum against the number of posts you’ve read from that
forum, but there’s an essential problem in calculating that if you
don’t track by thread – how do you know which threads you’ve looked
at and which ones you haven’t? There’s no way to transmit the :visited
information back to the server, that’s strictly for the browser’s
edification. Further, that property can be reset by the visitor at
whim. Plus, it wouldn’t work for people like me, who bounce between a
MacBook Pro, a Mac Pro tower, an iPhone, and an iPad – each machine
maintains its own history.

I believe that if I devote some time to this problem, I can do
something clever based on the timestamps of the posts, the raw number
of threads and posts, and the last timestamp in your session. But
that’s going to have to wait.

Walter

On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:45 PM, chuckamuck wrote:

Using the visited method is what I had in mind, but I see the
problem with keeping track of the count. How is that done on
normally bulletin boards? I assume it’s a tracked database field?


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Walter - please do not spend too much time over this at the expense of your other many needy causes.

We can wait - for however long it takes - because to us it is really just icing on the fantastic cake you have baked here.

D


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