[ANN] Carousel turns One-Dot-Oh

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This is normal. If you use a question mark instead of a hash mark (and then the ID of the pane), you will get the load-then-scroll behavior.

“?mypane5” works, but with one negative side-effect: I have another Carousel on that page (panes all named differently) which also moves to a pane.

Using “#mypane5”, the other Carousel isn’t affected (of course also the Carousel buttons are working well as intended - so this just happens when using a question mark styled link).

Do you have a guess what the reason might be ?

Tobias.

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@thatkeith: Thanks. I’ll check this out definitively.

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That doesn’t make any sense at all. Only the carousel that has the
named object in it should be affected. Can you post a link so I can
watch the goings-on with Firebug?

Walter

On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:40 PM, tobiaseichner wrote:

This is normal. If you use a question mark instead of a hash mark
(and then the ID of the pane), you will get the load-then-scroll
behavior.

“?mypane5” works, but with one negative side-effect: I have another
Carousel on that page (panes all named differently) which also moves
to a pane.

Using “#mypane5”, the other Carousel isn’t affected (of course also
the Carousel buttons are working well as intended - so this just
happens when using a question mark styled link).

Do you have a guess what the reason might be ?

Tobias.

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I’ll prepare a page and contact you by e-mail later today.

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On 6 Jan 2010, 2:40 pm, waltd wrote:

The Carousel effect will move in either direction, but if you are
running it in automatic animation mode, it always starts at the right
and animates left until it reaches the end, then rewinds and repeats.
There is no way to change that – it’s hard-wired into the underlying
JavaScript effect that I used to make the Action.

Walter, can’t that “underlying JavaScript” be modified? Because right now, the “Auto-Glide” feature is rather silly in some applications. (Indeed, I’m rather shocked that no one has even mentioned this until now.)

Think about it. Say you’ve got 10 panes/pics and your Auto-Glide interval is set to 6 (seconds). The intent is to show visitors a sampling of the products one can find on this particular site. The viewer will automatically be taken, slowly, through each of the 10 pics and they get 6 seconds to view each of them. But after the last pic – BOOM! – the viewer is taken on a roller coaster ride while all the pics are flashed back in a second of time and then it starts over again. That “rewind” part looks tacky. In this case, it should merely LOOP (maintaining the same Auto-Glide interval). There’s no reason you would want all the pics to rewind at high speed.

So I propose that this be made an option. Some people may want the existing REWIND functionality. But we also need a means of turning it off. In the case where it is turned off, after you view the last pane/pic, the first pane/pic will then come into view again just as slowly as the previous pics. No high speed rewind through all the pics! That would look much better, in my opinion, in most situations than Rewind.

Possible?

–James Wages

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James, I would love to have the time to write this. It’s not that
hard, I have done something similar. But I need to reverse-engineer
how the current system works, and add on to it.

I was lucky in that I was able to essentially bolt on an interface to
the Glider.js script using my Action, and force fit the Freeway layout
into the type of html that Glider expects:

<div overflow:hidden>
	<div really wide position absolute>
		<div pane />
		<div pane />
		<div pane />
	</div>
</div>

As I’ve said before, the trick is to make the first pane appear twice,
then rig the moveTo function to reset to 0 when it reaches the end in
one massive (invisible) jump.

Walter

On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:50 PM, JDW wrote:

On 6 Jan 2010, 2:40 pm, waltd wrote:

The Carousel effect will move in either direction, but if you are
running it in automatic animation mode, it always starts at the right
and animates left until it reaches the end, then rewinds and repeats.
There is no way to change that – it’s hard-wired into the underlying
JavaScript effect that I used to make the Action.

Walter, can’t that “underlying JavaScript” be modified? Because
right now, the “Auto-Glide” feature is rather silly in some
applications. (Indeed, I’m rather shocked that no one has even
mentioned this until now.)

Think about it. Say you’ve got 10 panes/pics and your Auto-Glide
interval is set to 6 (seconds). The intent is to show visitors a
sampling of the products one can find on this particular site. The
viewer will automatically be taken, slowly, through each of the 10
pics and they get 6 seconds to view each of them. But after the
last pic – BOOM! – the viewer is taken on a roller coaster ride
while all the pics are flashed back in a second of time and then it
starts over again. That “rewind” part looks tacky. In this case,
it should merely LOOP (maintaining the same Auto-Glide interval).
There’s no reason you would want all the pics to rewind at high speed.

So I propose that this be made an option. Some people may want the
existing REWIND functionality. But we also need a means of turning
it off. In the case where it is turned off, after you view the last
pane/pic, the first pane/pic will then come into view again just as
slowly as the previous pics. No high speed rewind through all the
pics! That would look much better, in my opinion, in most
situations than Rewind.

Possible?

–James Wages

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Newly released version of actions give message that the action “took so long to execute that it timed out”. Any thoughts?

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@Taro Yamamoto: I experience this behaviour sometimes on pages using a lot of actions at the same time.

Perhaps you want to reduce the number of actions used and give it a try to see whether or not it works.

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tobiaseichner, thanks for advice, but it does not work. Have you used this new version? Does it work for you?

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Yes, I updated my current projects today without trouble.

An other advise I got earlier in such a case is to delete all files located within your site folder (move them to trash and empty). Then generate the entire site from ground.

This helps me in cases where FW does not generate buttons or causes trouble with non-functional actions.

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Strange… now I get the same error message as Taro Yamamoto. Not sure why my first attempts worked well.

Deleting the website folder isn’t a solution, the problem persists.

@waltd: Is there a way to download the previous version until you fixed the problem (or whatever this is caused by) ?

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It’s a transition issue. Like ripping off the band-aid, it’s something
you have to work through. When I say delete the site folder, all I
mean is delete the published site on your hard disk. Freeway will re-
publish it for you very quickly.

Walter

On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:11 PM, tobiaseichner wrote:

Strange… now I get the same error message as Taro Yamamoto. Not
sure why my first attempts worked well.

Deleting the website folder isn’t a solution, the problem persists.

@waltd: Is there a way to download the previous version until you
fixed the problem (or whatever this is caused by) ?

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Ah, that was my fault. Sorry. I forgot to click away the FW JavaScript error message. So it popped up every time I tried to generate the page.

But… (it’s always something, isn’t) I now miss the animation for a Carousel. The panes are working, but not animated. Well, I’ll check it first (likely I missed a step).

Tobias.

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Can you post a link? It sounds as though the libraries aren’t being
found. I would guess that if you view source, you will see one or more
lines that look essentially like this:

<script src="" type="text/javascript></script>

So you’re not quite out of the woods.

How many different pages on this site have the Carousel effect on
them? Can you try a save as, then delete all the other pages in the
site, choose a different publish folder on your hard disk (make a new
one, to be sure) and see if the problem follows when you do that?

My guess here is that the replacement process did not “stick” somehow,
and you have a ghost version of the Action still lodged in the Freeway
document itself, or somewhere on your disk, and Freeway is preferring
that version to the new one for some reason.

Walter

On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:43 PM, tobiaseichner wrote:

Ah, that was my fault. Sorry. I forgot to click away the FW
JavaScript error message. So it popped up every time I tried to
generate the page.

But… (it’s always something, isn’t) I now miss the animation for a
Carousel. The panes are working, but not animated. Well, I’ll check
it first (likely I missed a step).

Tobias.

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Here is what I did (without much success to say it beforehand):

I downloaded the entire action package from actionsforge.com and installed it again ensuring that there was no error here yesterday.

Now deleted the entire site folder of that project, restarted FW and Safari.

Opened the project and created a new page from the existing template. Now the timeout-error popped up again.

Another time I restarted FW. After removing the error message, the page is being generated and Carousel is working - but without animation.

There are no empty script elements in the source.

However just one thing that I really (really, really) hate:

script src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/prototype/1.6.1.0/prototype.js" type="text/javascript">

I’m not sure if it’s wise to load libraries this way. I would love to have anything on my local system respectively later on my very own server.

Since not loading these libraries causing the entire website to not work correctly, I won’t rely upon Google (or any other third party server).

But I must confess that I never noticed this before (nor paid much attention to the source) and it may be implemented that way also in previous versions.

Regardless, at the time I’m testing this, the computer is connected to the Internet.

Well, I’ll go on and prepare something as demo. I’ll provide the URL by e-mail to you once ready (not sure if I can manage it tonight).

Tobias.

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I also tried to use a different folder for publishing (saved the entire project under a different name, opened it, changed site folder and created a fresh page - no other pages are currently in that project).

Interestingly the “timeout” error popped up again as I tried to generate the site the first time. After clicking it away, Carousel worked - but still without animation :frowning:

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@waltd: Demo has been sent. Looking forward to your feedback :slight_smile:

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If you disconnect from the net, and publish, you will get the old
behavior, where the prototype and scriptaculous libraries live locally.

As to relying on Google, that’s kind of like relying on the sun to
rise. You will be a very very rich man, with millions to burn on data
centers, before you are more reliable than they are. This is a very
trustworthy and available service, and it is used more often than not
when it comes to loading these libraries (and jQuery, and MooTools,
and probably a few more).

Walter

On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:16 PM, tobiaseichner wrote:

Here is what I did (without much success to say it beforehand):

I downloaded the entire action package from actionsforge.com and
installed it again ensuring that there was no error here yesterday.

Now deleted the entire site folder of that project, restarted FW and
Safari.

Opened the project and created a new page from the existing
template. Now the timeout-error popped up again.

Another time I restarted FW. After removing the error message, the
page is being generated and Carousel is working - but without
animation.

There are no empty script elements in the source.

However just one thing that I really (really, really) hate:

script src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/prototype/1.6.1.0/prototype.js " type="text/javascript">

I’m not sure if it’s wise to load libraries this way. I would love
to have anything on my local system respectively later on my very
own server.

Since not loading these libraries causing the entire website to not
work correctly, I won’t rely upon Google (or any other third party
server).

But I must confess that I never noticed this before (nor paid much
attention to the source) and it may be implemented that way also in
previous versions.

Regardless, at the time I’m testing this, the computer is connected
to the Internet.

Well, I’ll go on and prepare something as demo. I’ll provide the URL
by e-mail to you once ready (not sure if I can manage it tonight).

Tobias.

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Yes, your demo project works great. Strange, strange, strange.

Ha, I got it :slight_smile:

I added the “Attention FX” action to two of your buttons - and here is the timeout error again and animation refuses to work (also on the other buttons).

So it seems that this is an incompatibility between these two actions.

Regarding the Google issue… so I simply have to stay offline while generating the website to get the local versions of that libraries implemented ? Sounds easy enough to me :slight_smile:

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Yes.

Walter

On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:53 PM, tobiaseichner wrote:

Regarding the Google issue… so I simply have to stay offline while
generating the website to get the local versions of that libraries
implemented ? Sounds easy enough to me :slight_smile:

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