Anyone used Quark to create website?

Hello

Before investing more time and money into learning Freeway I am exploring other options.

My background is in using Quark Express (currently using InDesign) and I understand it is now a desk top publishing and web design tool. I like the idea that you can ‘kill two birds with one stone’.

Anyone used it? Is it any good?

Cheers

Mark


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Hi Mark

My background is also Quark (and looking at learning InDesign at
moment) and have found Freeway an excellent path to creating websites
for folks like us (al ot of the keyboard shortcuts etc are the same
as Quark and it works in a very similar manner)

My impression with Quark and InDesign web “capabilities” was that
they were just a bolt on - a “ooh we’re missing part of a market
here”. It’s a bit like creating a website in Microsoft Word (don’t do
it :slight_smile:

I think you’ll find a lot of the people using Freeway come from
similar backgrounds

Regards

Steve Kirkham
Tree Frog Communication
01245 445377
Mobile 07754 194137

On 5 Jun 2009, at 10:16, Mark wrote:

Hello

Before investing more time and money into learning Freeway I am
exploring other options.

My background is in using Quark Express (currently using InDesign)
and I understand it is now a desk top publishing and web design
tool. I like the idea that you can ‘kill two birds with one stone’.

Anyone used it? Is it any good?

Cheers

Mark


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Hi Mark
I love Quark its my favorite program to quickly layout websites as a visual, in fact I do all the graphics in photoshop and then slap the typography together in quark, finally ending up with a design I like… but when it comes to actually building a website then its not really up to it. Hence why I build in Freeway.

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This is how I came to use Freeway many moons ago. Then being a long
time Quark user (still am), Freeway was very similar to Quark so the
transition to Freeway is very simple.

Freeway has the similar key commands to Quark, and handles picture
resources the same way. If you can work Quark, you will be at home
with Freeway.

But would I design a web page in Quark? Definitely not. Although I
do use Quark’s Intertective Designer to create .swf files from time to
time, but they do into the Freeway web sites.

David Owen :: Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains ::

http://www.ineedwebhosting.co.uk :: http://www.webdesignquote.me

On 5 Jun 2009, at 10:16, Mark wrote:

Hello

Before investing more time and money into learning Freeway I am
exploring other options.

My background is in using Quark Express (currently using InDesign)
and I understand it is now a desk top publishing and web design
tool. I like the idea that you can ‘kill two birds with one stone’.

Anyone used it? Is it any good?

Cheers

Mark


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Thank Max, I’m really glad you said this. It’s very un-designer like
to even mention Quark these days in some quarters. We here are still
firmly on the Quark side of things also. Yes we too create webpage
mockup’s in Quark to PDF to the client.

David

On 5 Jun 2009, at 10:32, max wrote:

I love Quark


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There’s obviously a designer bias to this thread and indeed both Quark
and InDesign can produce web-ready pages, but think first of what
level of web design you want to achieve. During my time as client
services director for an advertising agency, I made it a principle to
learn all the techniques available to my studio and production teams,
including some hands on experience of Quark, et al. That meant they
had no excuses when the best was demanded of them (especially by me,
because I knew what could be done, even though I hadn’t the skills!)
and encouraged the use of the best application for each aspect of
creativity.

Each application works in a different way and there are always
limitations to what it can do. The advent of all-in-one software
actually sets more limitations overall, as each element has to
interact within a tight envelope of compatible technologies. Some,
like Topsy, have just grown and brought with them a baggage of bad
behaviour (especially in the PC world - think Vista!).

The beauty of Freeway is twofold. It is a design led application and
it is a formidable code machine. You can bring in elements from
outside applications and edit them - with just a couple of clicks
taking you back to the original. I use all of the Adobe CS Design
components plus a variety of less well known software, some PC only,
and bring it together seamlessly, in the limited amount of web design
I do. I even add snippets of code (though I don’t write it). Freeway
generates clean, validated output, uploaded to the server, ready to
roll.

So good as Quark or InDesign are, their foray into web design is still
restrictive in what they can achieve. Useful in some instances, yes,
for straightforward conversion of non-web material in content and
form, but not really ideal for good web design (and I believe the
coding is far from perfect). By all means experiment with them, use
them fro prototyping alongside other media being worked on, but use
the right tool for the job in the final production.

After all you can drive a screw into wood with a hammer (I know: I’m a
Brummie by birth) - but you get a very messy result!

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Sometime around 5/6/09 (at 05:16 -0400) Mark said:

My background is in using Quark Express (currently using InDesign)
and I understand it is now a desk top publishing and web design
tool. I like the idea that you can ‘kill two birds with one stone’.

Have I used it? Yes.
Is it any good? No. Not even in the current version of QuarkXPress
(which is actually amazingly good for print and interactive SWF
design).

QuarkXPress’s web design output is entirely table-based and the
handling of type formatting and image generation is clunky and
limited. It needs to move a long way from where it is now before it
can be anything more than a crude republishing process. Seriously,
don’t waste your time there.

Now, for print work it is a worthy rival to InDesign CS4, and thanks
to the Interactive Designer feature (previously a plugin, originally
Quark Immedia) it is also distinctly easier to use than Flash for
both animation and interactive SWF design work up to a fairly high
level.

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Brilliant, thanks for your all your responses.

I’ll ditch the Quark idea and embrace Freeway once and for all!

Cheers

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Agreed - Quark to Freeway was a natural progression for me and because of that there is no way that I would use Quark to do a site when the job is as easy/easier in FW but with a better result.

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