Big Brother or Sister to WebYep?

What would it take to do a full fledged CMS with Freeway Pro? A
company called Identis is supposed to be building us a website (for
our local radio station we own), fully web based CMS for contributors
to the web information. However, they’ve been dropping the ball and
not offering us any progress in the work they are supposed to be
doing. What it would take to build our own, or if there is someone out
there that can host and build a full CMS system for us.

Here is a local newspaper that uses Identis.

http://www.ellsworthinderep.com/

We would like to do something very similar, but brand it with our
radio station, and sprinkle in a few more multi-media elements, like
audio (obviously), and maybe a little video occasionally.

Joe


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I would not totally discount WebYep. On the face of it might not look much, it is quite powerful when applied properly.

On 11 Feb 2009, at 17:48, Joe Sporleder wrote:

What would it take to do a full fledged CMS with Freeway Pro? A company called Identis is supposed to be building us a website (for our local radio station we own), fully web based CMS for contributors to the web information. However, they’ve been dropping the ball and not offering us any progress in the work they are supposed to be doing. What it would take to build our own, or if there is someone out there that can host and build a full CMS system for us.

Here is a local newspaper that uses Identis.

http://www.ellsworthinderep.com/

We would like to do something very similar, but brand it with our radio station, and sprinkle in a few more multi-media elements, like audio (obviously), and maybe a little video occasionally.

Joe


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Hi Joe
I have just had a look at the example you have shown and it’s all do-able within WebYep, even the multimedia content elements.

If you are interested on how this may may please let me know

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Sometime around 12/2/09 (at 12:39 +0000) David Owen said:

I would not totally discount WebYep. On the face of it might not
look much, it is quite powerful when applied properly.

I agree entirely. It isn’t necessarily going to be what you want -
but don’t assume that it isn’t right!

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Max,

After reading yours and David’s reply to my query, how would one use
WebYep and Freeway to create an archive? Also, on WebYep, does one
setup multiple passwords for multiple contributors, or do all
contributors share a single login identity?

Joe

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Hi Joe
I have just had a look at the example you have shown and it’s all do-
able within WebYep, even the multimedia content elements.

If you are interested on how this may may please let me know

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HI Joe
There is only one way I can see to make an archive.

if you have multiple areas like your example: Home News Sports Opinions. Then I would create a conventional navigation to go to each area, then once in that areas eg… sports I would use a webyep menu to create my different months or quartiles for example: jan-mar 09.
Then then next one could be apr-jun 09 and so on.

The trick is once you want a chunk like Jan-mar 09 to be seen as an archive is that within the webyep menu you have the ability to rename and move a page’s order, I think you can even move the menu item so it becomes a sub menu within a drop down and this drop down could be called archives.
So by renaming pages and moving them you have a way of archiving. In The latest version of webyep you can even hide a page via the menu so if something come round once a year and you would like to dissable that page untill the following year then it’s now possible via the menu. coupled to the menu are loops which allow you to create multiple individual items on a page without having to republish from freeway.

Login is via one password though I think OBD are working on this as a possible addition for the future.

I hope this all makes sense and if I have time and you are interested let me know and I will create a basic version for you.

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I believe, the only way for multiple contributors to have separate passwords, is to create different folders with pages and a WebYep system in each. Each WebYep System in each folder would then have separate passwords.

On 16 Feb 2009, at 20:48, Joe Sporleder wrote:

Also, on WebYep, does one setup multiple passwords for multiple contributors, or do all contributors share a single login identity?

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That would be very useful as a kind of limited wiki - where I could assign
various people their own pages which they could then manage.

Or is a wiki relatively easy to set up and manage?
I have a feeling it may be tricky.

all the best
Brian

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Login is via one password though I think OBD are working on this as a possible
addition for the future.


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Please do confirm if this is so – as I was under the impression that each webyep operates for that domain and so would need a domain each?
In this case I would love to be wrong!
all the best
Brian

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I believe, the only way for multiple contributors to have separate passwords, is to create different folders with pages and a WebYep system in each. Each WebYep System in each folder would then have separate passwords.

On 16 Feb 2009, at 20:48, Joe Sporleder wrote:

Also, on WebYep, does one setup multiple passwords for multiple contributors, or do all contributors share a single login identity?

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I believe it will work. There may be an issue with multiple users trying to log in at one time though.


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There are a lot of different Wiki engines out there, most are pretty
simple to set up, but I have yet to find one that was actually easy to
integrate with another site design. Most of them trend toward looking
like Wikipedia, some are quite desperately ugly. All of them are
written in a highly-abstracted method with tons of tiny include files
to pore through when looking to change just about anything.

Walter

On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Brian Steere wrote:

Or is a wiki relatively easy to set up and manage?
I have a feeling it may be tricky.


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Hi Walter

If appearance was sacrificed to functionality - is there a high management
or learning curve to maintaining integrity from unwanted intrusion?
I’m not as concerned about authorised vandalism - I sense that can be rolled
back or sorted amicably with pistols at dawn.

Just wondering if this is a way to set up a network of dance teachers and
dancers with shared interactive resource - that I can manage to set up and
maintain - within the scope of a somewhat code illiterate willingness to
discern and follow instructions.

Has anyone else here set up and maintained a wiki? - and have any comments
that might help?

all the best
Brian

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There are a lot of different Wiki engines out there, most are pretty
simple to set up, but I have yet to find one that was actually easy to
integrate with another site design. Most of them trend toward looking
like Wikipedia, some are quite desperately ugly. All of them are
written in a highly-abstracted method with tons of tiny include files
to pore through when looking to change just about anything.

Walter

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Or is a wiki relatively easy to set up and manage?
I have a feeling it may be tricky.


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I have used DokuWiki for this sort of thing before. There is a default
setting out of the “box” that allows you to restrict changes to logged-
in members only. You can further restrict membership to require
approval, so that gets you the whole thing locked down. Read-only for
everyone in the world, read/write for those you invite. I believe you
can even lock the world out, but I may have hacked that part in myself
– can’t recall any more.

Walter

On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Brian Steere wrote:

If appearance was sacrificed to functionality - is there a high
management
or learning curve to maintaining integrity from unwanted intrusion?
I’m not as concerned about authorised vandalism - I sense that can
be rolled
back or sorted amicably with pistols at dawn.


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When working locally in MAMP, if you create a folder for each site (or site section) in the htdocs folder with its own WebYep system folder, set its password in config-inc.php to be unique for each, then each folder in htdocs only saves to the WebYep data folder in that System folder, in that site folder. No reason why this should not work on multiple folders (on the same level) in your main directory online. Each system folder would need the Licence code copied in it.

Note: these are folders on the same main directory level I have not tested this in sub-folders (system with a system) - this I feel won’t work.

On 17 Feb 2009, at 18:12, Brian Steere wrote:

Please do confirm if this is so – as I was under the impression that each webyep operates for that domain and so would need a domain each?
In this case I would love to be wrong!
all the best
Brian

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I haven’t time now but look forward to seeing if this indeed allows different logins within the same site when I get a moment
thanks
Brian

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When working locally in MAMP, if you create a folder for each site (or site section) in the htdocs folder with its own WebYep system folder, set its password in config-inc.php to be unique for each, then each folder in htdocs only saves to the WebYep data folder in that System folder, in that site folder. No reason why this should not work on multiple folders (on the same level) in your main directory online. Each system folder would need the Licence code copied in it.

Note: these are folders on the same main directory level I have not tested this in sub-folders (system with a system) - this I feel won’t work.

On 17 Feb 2009, at 18:12, Brian Steere wrote:

Please do confirm if this is so – as I was under the impression that each webyep operates for that domain and so would need a domain each?
In this case I would love to be wrong!
all the best
Brian

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