Blogger inside of Freeway???

As I’m learning the ins-and-outs of Freeway, I’m discovering my assumptions tend to paint me into a corner.

I had assumed that the Insert > Blogger actions allowed one to “fold” the Blogger site into a Freeway website. I now understand that one can use Freeway to quickly layout and style a Blogger template in Freeway, then plug the HTML code into Blogger.

While my client will be posting directly to her Blogger account and gleaning followers from there, I’d like to use Insert > iFrame to display the Blog within the site as a simple way to show (and self maintain) past posts.

Is there any danger/downside/un-considered problems with taking this iFrame approach?

Many thanks,
Robert


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Blogger sites have many virtual pages, each with unique content and URL. This is good from a semantic standpoint and therefore from an SEO standpoint. If you put that site in an iframe, then it’s like locking it in your bathroom and looking at it through the keyhole. It has only one URL, and the only addressable, linkable content in it is whatever the default page is. Everything else is inaccessible.

Now, that’s not strictly true, because it will be addressable by its blogger URL, but you won’t be able to say "my blog is at example.com/blog with a straight face, because any deep links to individual stories will still have to be written as blogger.com/myblog/somelongstring in order to work.

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Walter,

I’m still a bit fuzzy on your point(s).

If the Blogger site is independent of the user’s website, won’t all of the searchbots still find the blog site in all of its glory?

The thought of using iFrame is simply to make it easier to maintain a collection of past articles from within the website. Sort of a “hey we also have a blog” link. Or would it simply be best to have a link to the blogsite?

Robert


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If you use an iframe to do this, you will not be linking to individual
articles in your blog, but only to the one “top level” home page. That
by itself is fine, and you are correct, the searchbots will figure out
that there are other links to be had within the blogger site itself.
What I thought you were after here was a way to “wrap” the blogger
site in your own domain, and make it appear to be your site/server
that is hosting the blog.

If you want a very clear way to show the latest posts from your blog
on your own page, you might try the ReadFeed Action for Freeway Pro.
You’ll need to find the RSS feed URL from blogger, and plug that into
the Action, and you’ll also need to create some tag-only styles in
Freeway to make the resulting list of links look the way you want it
to, but what that system does is create an HTML element on your page
that contains proper deep links to your latest N stories on Blogger
(or elsewhere if you like). Those links can be decorated with a text
description of the content, etc., and the whole thing is published in
such a way that it is considered to be a part of your page. The idea
here is that your actual domain page keeps changing as often as your
blog, and from Google’s standpoint, that means that your page is
“active” and needs to be indexed more often, and that can cause it to
be more highly ranked. In contrast, an iframe doesn’t count as part of
your page at all from an SEO perspective.

Walter

On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Robert wrote:

Walter,

I’m still a bit fuzzy on your point(s).

If the Blogger site is independent of the user’s website, won’t all
of the searchbots still find the blog site in all of its glory?

The thought of using iFrame is simply to make it easier to maintain
a collection of past articles from within the website. Sort of a
“hey we also have a blog” link. Or would it simply be best to have a
link to the blogsite?

Robert


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Walter,

The last part of your response exactly nailed what I’m looking for. I don’t want to spend time re-posting blog articles into the client’s site. I knew there had to be a way of ‘easily’ accomplishing this. I’ll look into the ReedFeed Action. This makes the most sense.

I’m also assuming (which always gets me into trouble) that if I use the Freeway Blogger actions to style the Blogger blog site to resemble the client’s website, many of the HTML element styling problems you point out will be self-resolved. Correct?

Thanks for the help in steering me closer to a solution.

Regards,
Robert

On 10 Jun 2011, 2:02 pm, waltd wrote:

If you want a very clear way to show the latest posts from your blog
on your own page, you might try the ReadFeed Action for Freeway Pro.
You’ll need to find the RSS feed URL from blogger, and plug that into
the Action, and you’ll also need to create some tag-only styles in
Freeway to make the resulting list of links look the way you want it
to, but what that system does is create an HTML element on your page
that contains proper deep links to your latest N stories on Blogger
(or elsewhere if you like). Those links can be decorated with a text
description of the content, etc., and the whole thing is published in
such a way that it is considered to be a part of your page. The idea
here is that your actual domain page keeps changing as often as your
blog, and from Google’s standpoint, that means that your page is
“active” and needs to be indexed more often, and that can cause it to
be more highly ranked. In contrast, an iframe doesn’t count as part of
your page at all from an SEO perspective.

Walter


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ReadFeed takes as its input the URL to an XML file published by
Blogger. Once every N minutes it connects to this feed and updates its
local cache of the XML file on your server, and then translates this
XML file into HTML for your site visitors to see. The result is a
completely unstyled HTML unordered list, that lays out like this:

* 	Headline with link
	Brief description of this link, as defined in the Blogger feed  

settings.
* Headline with link
Brief description of this link, as defined in the Blogger feed
settings.
* Headline with link
Brief description of this link, as defined in the Blogger feed
settings.

This list of links has no style whatsoever. Anything you want to add
in the way of style must be added in Freeway, but in a fairly non-
Freeway mode, because what you see on screen when you are designing
with ReadFeed is an empty box where your posts will appear. If you
read the description on ActionsForge, you will see a list of CSS
classnames you can use to create the style you’re after. It’s then up
to you to create new “tag-only” styles in Freeway’s Edit Styles dialog
that have each of those precise names. There’s no way for you to
visualize these styles as applied until you upload the page to your
server and test it there.

Walter

On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Robert wrote:

Walter,

The last part of your response exactly nailed what I’m looking for.
I don’t want to spend time re-posting blog articles into the
client’s site. I knew there had to be a way of ‘easily’
accomplishing this. I’ll look into the ReedFeed Action. This makes
the most sense.

I’m also assuming (which always gets me into trouble) that if I use
the Freeway Blogger actions to style the Blogger blog site to
resemble the client’s website, many of the HTML element styling
problems you point out will be self-resolved. Correct?

Thanks for the help in steering me closer to a solution.

Regards,
Robert

On 10 Jun 2011, 2:02 pm, waltd wrote:

If you want a very clear way to show the latest posts from your blog
on your own page, you might try the ReadFeed Action for Freeway Pro.
You’ll need to find the RSS feed URL from blogger, and plug that into
the Action, and you’ll also need to create some tag-only styles in
Freeway to make the resulting list of links look the way you want it
to, but what that system does is create an HTML element on your page
that contains proper deep links to your latest N stories on Blogger
(or elsewhere if you like). Those links can be decorated with a text
description of the content, etc., and the whole thing is published in
such a way that it is considered to be a part of your page. The idea
here is that your actual domain page keeps changing as often as your
blog, and from Google’s standpoint, that means that your page is
“active” and needs to be indexed more often, and that can cause it to
be more highly ranked. In contrast, an iframe doesn’t count as part
of
your page at all from an SEO perspective.

Walter


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Hi, I love your ReadFeed Action, Thank you Walter, but you wouldn’t happen to know what the Element is for showing the Time Stamp of a Google Blogger post would you? I’ve tried everything under the sun and I’m at my wits end. Thank you!


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If you post a link to the RSS feed you’re using (copy and paste out of
the ReadFeed URL field) here, I can take a look at it and see what I
can see.

Walter

On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Doren wrote:

Hi, I love your ReadFeed Action, Thank you Walter, but you wouldn’t
happen to know what the Element is for showing the Time Stamp of a
Google Blogger post would you? I’ve tried everything under the sun
and I’m at my wits end. Thank you!


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