Boring Regularity! was Re: Have Host mail down again anyone?

On 7 Dec 2013, 12:21 am, Helveticus wrote:

Most hosts will move your sites at no cost if it is a cPanel to cPanel transfer.

Marcel

How does this work? I mean, how do I figure out which hosts offer this service?

Joe


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It is harder to find a host that does not use cPanel than one who does. Right now, in HH’s cPanel, see if you can find a migration section to the control panel. Google might be helpful as well. My guess is that this is a part of the program, and you will only need to use it – or ask your host to use it, if it’s an admin-only tool. I haven’t used a cPanel server in several years; I’ve been on bare-metal VPSen for the most part for 6 or more years. But I would guess that this is not the first time such a thing has been needed, and given the Swiss-Army feel to the rest of cPanel, it’s got to be in there somewhere, like that pony in the barn full of manure.

Walter

On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Joe Muscara wrote:

On 7 Dec 2013, 12:21 am, Helveticus wrote:

Most hosts will move your sites at no cost if it is a cPanel to cPanel transfer.

Marcel

How does this work? I mean, how do I figure out which hosts offer this service?

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Down again : 17.30 GMT.


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Thanks Walter,

Just to report it’s down again … and I’ve raised a Zen ticket
reporting it’s down again web/mail

Peter

Walter Lee Davis wrote:

It is harder to find a host that does not use cPanel than one who does. Right now, in HH’s cPanel, see if you can find a migration section to the control panel. Google might be helpful as well. My guess is that this is a part of the program, and you will only need to use it – or ask your host to use it, if it’s an admin-only tool. I haven’t used a cPanel server in several years; I’ve been on bare-metal VPSen for the most part for 6 or more years. But I would guess that this is not the first time such a thing has been needed, and given the Swiss-Army feel to the rest of cPanel, it’s got to be in there somewhere, like that pony in the barn full of manure.

Walter

On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Joe Muscara wrote:

On 7 Dec 2013, 12:21 am, Helveticus wrote:

Most hosts will move your sites at no cost if it is a cPanel to cPanel transfer.

Marcel
How does this work? I mean, how do I figure out which hosts offer this service?

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IOW, and from what I’m finding elsewhere, cPanel just has this feature and if I move to a host that has cPanel, I need to contact them to do it, possibly/probably give them my username and password for my primary account.

Yeah, email is down for me right now as well, though web sites are up.

On 7 Dec 2013, 2:08 pm, waltd wrote:

It is harder to find a host that does not use cPanel than one who does. Right now, in HH’s cPanel, see if you can find a migration section to the control panel. Google might be helpful as well. My guess is that this is a part of the program, and you will only need to use it – or ask your host to use it, if it’s an admin-only tool. I haven’t used a cPanel server in several years; I’ve been on bare-metal VPSen for the most part for 6 or more years. But I would guess that this is not the first time such a thing has been needed, and given the Swiss-Army feel to the rest of cPanel, it’s got to be in there somewhere, like that pony in the barn full of manure.

Walter

On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Joe Muscara wrote:

On 7 Dec 2013, 12:21 am, Helveticus wrote:

Most hosts will move your sites at no cost if it is a cPanel to cPanel transfer.

Marcel

How does this work? I mean, how do I figure out which hosts offer this service?

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IOW, and from what I’m finding elsewhere, cPanel just has this feature and if I move to a host that has cPanel, I need to contact them to do it, possibly/probably give them my username and password for my primary account.

Joe that is all you have to do - give the new host your login credentials for your current hosting account and they will do the rest. As Walter have mentioned most hosts use cPanel.

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Email & site down again from about 11.15 GMT


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Yes, Monday: same again. Curses …


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Now that the email has come back I seem to be missing messages that were sent to me while the server was down. Anyone else noticing this?

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I can say that over the last disastrous weeks of the HH server I have
lost quite a number of test messages I sent to it.

Having said that the customers on it have not complained to me, but that
is probably they don’t know what they are missing?

P

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Now that the email has come back I seem to be missing messages that were sent to me while the server was down. Anyone else noticing this?

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I suspect you’re correct on that. It’s only because I saw some notification messages were being pushed to my iPad via another app that I realised they weren’t showing up in the mail programme. Then someone mentioned a message bouncing during the downtime.

Not good at all …

Having said that the customers on it have not complained to me, but that
is probably they don’t know what they are missing?

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There is a standard that mail clients and servers are supposed to adhere
to if the receiving server is off line the sending server or client
should follow … I don’t have the exact protocol in font of me, but the
sending mailserver will try for a week at least until the receiving
server cones back online.

I just wonder and it seems no one has had the whole story … yet, but
when James has had the clear the mail queue that in amongst the millions
of spam, real messages lurk and have got siphoned off as well?

Anyway I’m looking forward to an interesting read when we finally hear
the reasons why and the whole story. Then what has been put in place to
stop it in the future … whenever the Time-lords decree we’ve had enough.

P

petemac wrote:

I suspect you’re correct on that. It’s only because I saw some notification messages were being pushed to my iPad via another app that I realised they weren’t showing up in the mail programme. Then someone mentioned a message bouncing during the downtime.

Not good at all …

Having said that the customers on it have not complained to me, but that
is probably they don’t know what they are missing?

P


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Down again this morning sites and email …

When will this stop???

Peter Tucker wrote:

There is a standard that mail clients and servers are supposed to
adhere to if the receiving server is off line the sending server or
client should follow … I don’t have the exact protocol in font of
me, but the sending mailserver will try for a week at least until the
receiving server cones back online.

I just wonder and it seems no one has had the whole story … yet, but
when James has had the clear the mail queue that in amongst the
millions of spam, real messages lurk and have got siphoned off as well?

Anyway I’m looking forward to an interesting read when we finally hear
the reasons why and the whole story. Then what has been put in place
to stop it in the future … whenever the Time-lords decree we’ve had
enough.

P

petemac wrote:

I suspect you’re correct on that. It’s only because I saw some
notification messages were being pushed to my iPad via another app
that I realised they weren’t showing up in the mail programme. Then
someone mentioned a message bouncing during the downtime.

Not good at all …

Having said that the customers on it have not complained to me, but
that
is probably they don’t know what they are missing?

P


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Same here, everything down.


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Down again this morning sites and email …
When will this stop???

When you sign up for hosting with a better host. I pay a bit more but have excellent service and uptime.

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When will this stop???

When you sign up for hosting with a better host.

I’ll second this. There are some good, and very affordable, hosts out there. cPanel migration should be easy. It’s simply doesn’t make sense to stick with a host that is having lots of downtime and other problems.

For alternatives, check out Reviewpon. I know the guy who runs it, and it’s the only web host review site that I would ever trust. I’ll second his opinion that A Small Orange offers the best shared hosting right now, I’ve worked with them before and have been blown away by their level of support and uptime.

Check out the alternatives.


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I actually am switching most to fat cow

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On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Caleb Grove email@hidden wrote:

When will this stop???

When you sign up for hosting with a better host.

I’ll second this. There are some good, and very affordable, hosts out there. cPanel migration should be easy. It’s simply doesn’t make sense to stick with a host that is having lots of downtime and other problems.

For alternatives, check out Reviewpon. I know the guy who runs it, and it’s the only web host review site that I would ever trust. I’ll second his opinion that A Small Orange offers the best shared hosting right now, I’ve worked with them before and have been blown away by their level of support and uptime.

Check out the alternatives.


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Let me clarify , from mac highway… Too many major outages and no separate cpanels

I would rather be w have host and my back up be fat cow …

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On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:20 PM, Julie Maxwell email@hidden wrote:

I actually am switching most to fat cow

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Caleb Grove email@hidden wrote:

When will this stop???

When you sign up for hosting with a better host.

I’ll second this. There are some good, and very affordable, hosts out there. cPanel migration should be easy. It’s simply doesn’t make sense to stick with a host that is having lots of downtime and other problems.

For alternatives, check out Reviewpon. I know the guy who runs it, and it’s the only web host review site that I would ever trust. I’ll second his opinion that A Small Orange offers the best shared hosting right now, I’ve worked with them before and have been blown away by their level of support and uptime.

Check out the alternatives.


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