Carousel 2 and Freeway 7

Freeway 7 introduced a much-simplified structure to in-flow (inline) graphic boxes. This is a breaking change for Carousel 2. I wrote more about this in the description for the Action on Actionsforge, and document a work-around until I can update the Action.

http://actionsforge.com/actions/carousel-2

In every other respect, Carousel2 appears to work correctly with Freeway 7. If someone has a few spare cycles, I would love to know how the new responsive stuff works with the Action (try making your changes to only the “main” carousel pane on a breakpoint, and see if the effect still works at smaller sizes, and failing that, see if making the changes to all panes at each breakpoint works as expected).

Walter


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Hi Waltd,

i tried to follow your advices on Actionsforge but do not succeed in.
My carousel is applied to an html element with inline blocks (text and image) in it.

I use Carousel action over a few years and it worked pretty well with Freeway previous versions.

Could you help please ?


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Can you post a link to the page where you have tried this?

I wrote the directions while working out the steps in a new document. It is possible that if you were updating an existing document, you may need to remove all instances of the Action, publish once, then build the effect back up by applying the Actions in order.

When applying this Action to inline elements, it seems very likely that the Action will lose its reference to the other elements on the page, and thus the secondary panes will lose their relationship with the primary pane.

If you haven’t posted this live anywhere yet, follow those steps (remove the Action from everything on the page, publish once, apply the Action to each of the elements again) and see if that clears it up for you.

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Hi Walter,

thank you for your help.
I have removed all actions and rebuild the effect and it finally works again.

The behaviour of carousel action seems a little strange in Freeway 7.

When i updated my artwork to Freeway 7, all the panes of my carousel appeared side by side like a film on the page.
This was an interesting effect but not exactly the one i was looking for :slight_smile:

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Make sure that the element you applied the Carousel (not Pane) Action to has its overflow set to Hidden. Note this means the HTML box, not the image, in the case of a set of images.

Walter

On Dec 5, 2014, at 4:34 AM, alain email@hidden wrote:

Hi Walter,

thank you for your help.
I have removed all actions and rebuild the effect and it finally works again.

The behaviour of carousel action seems a little strange in Freeway 7.

When i updated my artwork to Freeway 7, all the panes of my carousel appeared side by side like a film on the page.
This was an interesting effect but not exactly the one i was looking for :slight_smile:

Regards


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Thanks Walt,

on this website, i made my different carousels with Freeway 5 and it worked perfectly.
Once i opened my artwork in Freeway 7 to modify it, the panes constructed with inline graphic box (photos) and html box (text) appeared side by side like a film strip without changing anything at all.

I’m not sure it has something to see with hidden overflow of the main element (carousel).


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on this website,

It always helps if we can see an online example - without that we can only guess?

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Yes, you’re right Dave.

This is a complete reworking of this website but you can see a carousel on this page made with Freeway 5 :

http://www.adphotographie.com/lfdb/mur.html


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I completely rebuilt these pages removing and rebuilding instances of carousel actions as Walter proposed to do and now it works perfectly well.

I don’t understand what was the issue upgrading to the last Freeway version but eventually it’s solved.

Thanks to all of you !


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Hi,

I am trying to utilize Carousel 2 in a new FWP 7.0 inline construction, it seems to work as it used in non inline.

I have created a basic 101 test site that sort of captures my issues the site is here:-

http://www.reenoserve.com/carousel/

There are two pages in the site the first uses the method of Drawing the Carousel element within an existing Element, the second page is created by using the insert inline elements within an existing element by double clicking into the first element.
As you can see the second page does not work at all, and i am not sure what i am doing wrong i tired using the new instructions that Walter has added to the Action page but they did not seem to make much difference.
The first page sort of works in that the Carousel cycles through in the correct location, however my horizontal positioning is rubbish, even the text within the Carousel Panes is no longer centred.
Any suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated

Thx John


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Hi Walter,

how is about Carousel2 action update for Freeway Pro 7? I have now start using Freeway 7, but Corousel Actions in FWP don’t work. I have try to remove old Actions and put new Carousel 2 actions in place of original Carousel. This don’t work and, those advices, what you write on Carousel2 Action pages I don’t understand at all. Perhaps because my native language is not English. Because of this, I have to still use FWP 5.5 with most of clients pages.


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Hello,

Just a thought, have you tried the NewsCycle action, it can be found here:-

http://actionsforge.com/actions/newscycle

The major user differences between this and Carousel is that you do not get the Previous, Next tab, etc in NewsCycle. NewsCycle is FWP 7 Compatible, not sure if Walter has any plans to upgrade NewsCycle to incorporate user options like Previous and Next buttons?

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Carousel 2 is not completely a drop-in replacement for Carousel, because they work in a slightly different manner. It is possible to use Carousel 2 in Freeway 7, but it is not possible to have it respond to the different @media breakpoints, because Freeway does not expose that interface to Actions at all. Perhaps in the next iteration of Freeway it will be possible, but for now, you’ll have to design your carousel element to fit well on the tiniest screen, and let it fly free on a larger screen.

Or, take the advice that many UX professionals are dishing out now and skip the carousel effect altogether. Somewhat paraphrasing Steve Jobs, “If you see a carousel, the designer gave up”. If you have the notion that a single area of the page must contain more than one thing, then you have either failed to decide what the page is actually about, or you have failed to appreciate the liquid nature of Web pages. There is no such thing as a limited space in a Web page. It will always grow to enclose whatever you place within it.

Walter

On Mar 8, 2015, at 7:25 AM, ejw email@hidden wrote:

Hello,

Just a thought, have you tried the NewsCycle action, it can be found here:-

NewsCycle - ActionsForge

The major user differences between this and Carousel is that you do not get the Previous, Next tab, etc in NewsCycle. NewsCycle is FWP 7 Compatible, not sure if Walter has any plans to upgrade NewsCycle to incorporate user options like Previous and Next buttons?

John


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I have examine how Tim Plumb have made his example of Carousel2 slider. The Item where you have placed the Carousel2 Action must be ”Graphic Item” and when you import the jpg into the item, it can’t be ”Pass-trough”. If you use pass-trough the item will change into html-item and the Carousel2 Action will not work on Freeway 7.
Such a simple explanation would have enough for me!


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If you want to attach the Action to HTML Items using Freeway 7 then you’ll need to follow Walter’s instructions here;
http://actionsforge.com/actions/carousel-2
Regards,
Tim.

On 9 Mar 2015, at 09:00, Peka wrote:

I have examine how Tim Plumb have made his example of Carousel2 slider. The Item where you have placed the Carousel2 Action must be ”Graphic Item” and when you import the jpg into the item, it can’t be ”Pass-trough”. If you use pass-trough the item will change into html-item and the Carousel2 Action will not work on Freeway 7.
Such a simple explanation would have enough for me!


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Is there any difference using html- or Graphic Item with Carousel2 ? Using Graphic Item seems to be more easier than html.


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It’s all down to how much work you want to put into preparing your images. Dragging an image box over the top of an HTML item (to which you have applied the Carousel Pane Action) is an additional step, to be sure, but so too is preparing a correctly-sized and formatted JPEG or PNG image in another application like Photoshop or Acorn. Whichever of these approaches you take, the net result is the same – you have an HTML item to which the Action is applied, and a separate graphic, applied either as a background image or as a nested child element.

There’s another angle to this – if you use the background-image trick, then the page will not be printable with images showing unless the user is aware of the trick to turn on “print backgrounds” in the page setup dialog. But then a carousel is inherently difficult to print, since it’s luck of the draw which image will be visible when you invoke that command, so this is probably a difference without meaning.

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