Centering site in browser

Dave,
You’re so right, but I can’t see how to lower any of the quality setting there to decrease file size… 8-bit PNG is not a true transparent file. The physical size of both files are about the same… He’s clipped in a bit more, but nothing dramatic to eliminate any true waste space.
Any suggestions? Thanks, Cory


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btw - My background (blue wood image) is 2150 x 1200 and way over 1 meg… not my chain image… it’s about the same size as Tim’s which is 1192 x 821.


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Hi Cory,
I had real trouble keeping the image sizes down in my example file as
the dimensions were just so large. Having said that there are a few
things you can do to improve the performance of the page.

  1. The chain image (cfc_panelchain_on.png) is 2150 x 1200 pixels. The
    majority of this is empty space (transparent) and you’d be better off
    clipping it in Photoshop to bring the size down. Your image is just
    over 1Mb and mine is 588K.
  2. I ended up compressing the background image (cfc_background_21.jpg)
    right down to a JPEG level of 15 to try and squeeze some more
    performance out of the page. In retrospect I think the image did
    suffer as it looks blurred and detail-less compared to the original.
    Experiment with the image quality and see where your best fit is.
  3. Finally if you have PHP enabled on the server consider using HTTP
    header compression to have the server automatically compress the data
    before it is sent to the browser. I doubt it’s going to work wonders
    with already heavily compressed images like this but it may help. You
    can find the Web Fast action on my site here; http://www.freewayactions.com/product.php?id=021
    Regards,
    Tim.

On 10 Dec 2009, at 01:52, Cory Falter wrote:

btw - My background (blue wood image) is 2150 x 1200 and way over 1
meg… not my chain image… it’s about the same size as Tim’s which
is 1192 x 821.

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Sometime around 10/12/09 (at 09:19 +0000) Tim Plumb said:

Experiment with the image quality and see where your best fit is.

That page had better be worth the download wait!

Seriously though, I’m away form a working connection and just working
through my offline emails, so I can’t check out how it looks so far.
Are you perhaps over-designing the page? Does it really benefit that
much from what you’re trying to do? Will it really not annoy people
that they are presented with a slow-loading page where the majority
of the data is purely decoration?

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Although I agree in principle what you are saying Keith I’m here to
explain how the design can be produced in Freeway and not to pass
judgement on the overall reasoning for it. I had suggested cutting the
download times down dramatically by using a tiled image for the
background but that idea was rejected in favor of the single image.
Freeway is a very flexible application and doesn’t attempt to teach
the user best practices for producing a web site. Maybe it should but
every now and then you end up learning something quite amazing from
not following the expected path.
Regards,
Tim.

On 10 Dec 2009, at 17:17, Keith Martin wrote:

Sometime around 10/12/09 (at 09:19 +0000) Tim Plumb said:

Experiment with the image quality and see where your best fit is.

That page had better be worth the download wait!

Seriously though, I’m away form a working connection and just
working through my offline emails, so I can’t check out how it looks
so far. Are you perhaps over-designing the page? Does it really
benefit that much from what you’re trying to do? Will it really not
annoy people that they are presented with a slow-loading page where
the majority of the data is purely decoration?

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Sometime around 10/12/09 (at 23:56 +0000) Tim Plumb said:

Freeway is a very flexible application and doesn’t attempt to teach
the user best practices for producing a web site. Maybe it should but

No, you’re right - in general, Freeway shouldn’t prevent people from
doing things. How could it always know exactly what’s wanted? I (a
third-party person) will sometimes step in with a nudge and a
question. But it is better that the tool is flexible and allows odd
things to be tried than it be too restrictive.

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