css menu with Flash and IE

I read the help post from Janel … Perhaps I’m trying to do something similar? Or is this a different case…

My css menu is a layered item over another html layer containing Flash swf. It’s all lovely and fine on Safari, Netscape, Firefox Moxilla 3, but someone just reported that it was under the flash in IE.

Since it’s possible with the other browsers, I would think there would be some kind of code that we could add for an IE fix? I’m using Pro 5.1.2.

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Flash always muscles it’s way to the top. It does not allow anything above to coexist unless it is part of the Flash file.


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The css menu is ABOVE the Flash content and looks great in the three browsers…it’s only the IE browser that’s screwing things up … which prompts me to believe there is a code fix … I just don’t know what that is :frowning:


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Did you set a background color in the CSS menu action? This fixes problems with CSS menus in IE, but has nothing to do with Flash issue.


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In the html setting: no background
In the css menu options:
no background on main menu,
but background on submenu.


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CSS menu must have a background color for IE to play nice i’m afraid.


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Hi Rebecca,

The background color is not the reason, it’s because Flash is plug-in
content that sits above everything else on the page. I’m actually
surprised it isn’t on the other browsers to be honest. There isn’t any
code that can make the menus sit above the Flash content as far as I
know (if someone knows different then please speak up).

Joe

On 3 Jul 2008, at 20:25, chuckamuck wrote:

CSS menu must have a background color for IE to play nice i’m afraid.


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Thanks Joe. Sounded like two different issues to me.


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Joe,

Take a look here please:
http://www.fonsecadesign.com/dgmbeta/

I’m sure I’ve got the latest versions of Safari, Netscape and Foxfire, but I can see it working fine (this is a php server, but the actual site is on an asp server, and it previews fine for me as well)… hence disproving the theory that css cannot exit over flash … except for the IE dilemna… which means there must be some code out there … anyone, anyone ? :slight_smile:


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On the Mac It does appear to work in Safari 3, but not in Firefox 2. Although the menus are there and visible briefly, they are interrupted and replaced by the flash behind them.


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On my Mac, with Safari 3.1, the menus only work correctly when Flash has played though to the end of its cycle. If I try to use the menus while the pictures are still changing, the sub-menus keep disappearing behind the pictures. For good measure I tried Opera 9.5 and Firefox 3.0: same problem.


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Hmmm. I can see and use the menu, even if the flash portion is still running. Safari 3.1.1 and Firefox 3.0. I run into the problem with Navigator 9.0.0.6, though. The two that work gives hope for a fix!


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You’re in luck, Google’s an incredible thing sometimes! Select one of
your Flash items and go to Item>Extended. In the dialog that appears
click New, then, in the next dialog that appears type “wmode” in the
Name field and “transparent” in the Value field. Repeat this for the
other Flash items too.

That should be it, it should work after that.

Note that setting the movies to transparent mode will be a bit more of
a strain on the machine playing them than otherwise but it’s a
solution right?

Joe

On 3 Jul 2008, at 22:18, rebeccintosh wrote:

Hmmm. I can see and use the menu, even if the flash portion is still
running. Safari 3.1.1 and Firefox 3.0. I run into the problem with
Navigator 9.0.0.6, though. The two that work gives hope for a fix!


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I should have said, no quotes around wmode and transparent!

On 3 Jul 2008, at 22:41, Joe Billings wrote:

You’re in luck, Google’s an incredible thing sometimes! Select one of
your Flash items and go to Item>Extended. In the dialog that appears
click New, then, in the next dialog that appears type “wmode” in the
Name field and “transparent” in the Value field. Repeat this for the
other Flash items too.

That should be it, it should work after that.

Note that setting the movies to transparent mode will be a bit more of
a strain on the machine playing them than otherwise but it’s a
solution right?

Joe

On 3 Jul 2008, at 22:18, rebeccintosh wrote:

Hmmm. I can see and use the menu, even if the flash portion is still
running. Safari 3.1.1 and Firefox 3.0. I run into the problem with
Navigator 9.0.0.6, though. The two that work gives hope for a fix!


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I see the menus for a moment in Safari 3, but then when the next
frame of the Flash movie plays, they are gone “behind” it. I would
say that the fact that they appear for a moment is a browser bug. The
plug-in content is supposed to cut a hole through the page from z-
index infinity on down, and that’s actually the way it is supposed to
work. The browser appears to be calculating that part of the layout
“lazily” and is only being reminded of the spec by the plug-in later.

Walter

On Jul 3, 2008, at 4:52 PM, chuckamuck wrote:

On the Mac It does appear to work in Safari 3, but not in Firefox
2. Although the menus are there and visible briefly, they are
interrupted and replaced by the flash behind them.


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Sorry for the delay in getting back (the holiday). I believe it’s working ! At least in the three browsers I checked. If it’s good in Explorer –– I’ll be a happy camper. Good find Joe! If anyone has time to look again on a different browser to see if the fix works, that would be great. Here’s the link again.
http://www.fonsecadesign.com/dgmbeta/


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In Firefox 3 I see a lot of flickering. If I wait for the flash animation to finish, then choose the first item in the sub menu of “about us”, the other items disappear.


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