CSS TEXT STYLE ISSUES/HELP

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Hi once again!

ok, I want to use several particular fonts for my site and set it as a CSS style.

EG:

Helvetica Neue, light 10 pt
Helvetica Neue, Bold 12 pt

etc…etc…

I’ve noticed FW uses it default fonts, and also allows you to use fonts installed on your machine if you use the ‘force graphic character’ option.

However when you apply this it doesn’t always seem to match the font? Is this just me? Or am I doing something wrong?

I want to use the specific font style ‘Helvetica Neue, light 10 pt’ for bullet points!

I need the leading to be at ‘80%’ but once applied it doen’t seem to want to change at all?

Is this omething that cannot be alter due to the ‘force graphic characher’ settings or…???

Basically I have several different variations of fonts on each page within the site, only altering slightly…however this is crucial to the layout/look so I need the fonts to match!

Any help?

Secondly, is there a way to have multiple colours in CSS within the same paragraph?

eg:

• ‘red’ text… “black”
• ‘red’ text… “black”
• ‘red’ text… “black”

If you simple try and cheat - change the colour of the bullet, it creates a new style ‘style1 etc’ that will cause problems later with the CSS styling!

Finally!

Is there an option/action to allow you greater control over your text/html styles in CSS?

I have the font Hooge_05_53 NICE but different, when I ‘force the graphic character’ with this font it appears the same, however I want to be a able to alter the aa style like in ‘Photoshop’ – none/sharp/strong/crisp/smooth…

…as I want to use the “None” style as the font appears “FUZZY” even as html! This option if possible will allow me to set it to ‘none’ thus eliminating the fuzzyness!

Am I asking too much of FW? I hope not! :wink: hint hint!

Sorry to ramble but I’m getting frustrated an ddon’t want to have to use graphic text!

Not only do these issues compromise the look but also the SEO!

Hope your suggests/help can aid other too!

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Sometime around 25/3/08 (at 08:24 -0400) Mr worm said:

Hi once again!

ok, I want to use several particular fonts for my site and set it as
a CSS style.

EG:

Helvetica Neue, light 10 pt
Helvetica Neue, Bold 12 pt

If you set your text as HTML text your pages will work well in search
engines and be generally at least reasonably accessible. But you WILL
have to rely on the basic ‘web safe’ fonts, the ones that are found
on the vast majority of computers. This is because HTML text
formatting is just a request to use a font, if it happens to be
available on the visitor’s computer. If not, you get the next best
option, and so on down until your entire site is rendered in the
slightly screen-iffy Times/Times New Roman.

If you set your text as graphics you will be able to use any font you
like, that is installed on your Mac. Your text will be generated as
bitmap graphics, and those visiting your site will see the graphic
typesetting… unless they have problems of one sort or another, in
which case they’re totally out of luck. Your pages will also NOT work
at all well in search engines.

This is NOT a limitation of Freeway, it is a fact of life with web
design and production.

You can create custom font sets and use those within your CSS styles

  • but this requires serious understanding of what’s generally
    available on your visitors’ computers and what are reasonable
    fall-through alternatives.

Take a look at http://www.thetypographic.com/lecture/ for some info
about web typography. It is getting a little old now, but the vast
majority of what it says is still absolutely relevant.

I’ll leave the rest of your questions for another time, or perhaps
another person. I think it is very important that you fully
understand the limitations of type setting and control with regards
to web design.

k

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On 25 Mar. 2008, 5:10 pm, thatkeith wrote:

Sometime around 25/3/08 (at 08:24 -0400) Mr worm said:

Hi once again!

ok, I want to use several particular fonts for my site and set it as
a CSS style.

If you set your text as HTML text your pages will work well in search
engines and be generally at least reasonably accessible. But you WILL
have to rely on the basic ‘web safe’ fonts, the ones that are found
on the vast majority of computers. This is because HTML text
formatting is just a request to use a font, if it happens to be
available on the visitor’s computer. If not, you get the next best
option, and so on down until your entire site is rendered in the
slightly screen-iffy Times/Times New Roman.

…This is NOT a limitation of Freeway, it is a fact of life with web
design and production.

I found a related post about default fonts in both Mac and Windows PCs which may be found here. HTH :slight_smile:

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How do I get bullet point text to display in anything other than Times? I want all of my text to display as Helvetica but no matter what I do the the Bullet points always display as Times, I’ve spent hours trying to sort this out and it’s driving me round the bend!!!

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Shortening some processes, it sometimes requires some basic understanding of how web works.

Watching this episode (and mainly the next as well) may help shortening this, however I must admit that I haven’t tried this regarding bullet-points (but should):

http://www.kimmich-digitalmedia.com/videos/013_thecodingepisodes_part6_the-paragraph

Cheers

Thomas

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this article may be helpful -
http://cssway.thebigerns.com/workbench/list-item-styling/

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Ernie Simpson

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Andy Mould email@hidden
wrote:

How do I get bullet point text to display in anything other than Times? I
want all of my text to display as Helvetica but no matter what I do the the
Bullet points always display as Times, I’ve spent hours trying to sort this
out and it’s driving me round the bend!!!

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“bullet point text” equals “html list”.

The short version is…

A List style is automatically generated by Freeway when text is indented,
as by the Inspector Palette List pane.

Edit that auto-generated list style in the Style Editor-- to add Name and
make Permanent-- to also add font-family, is the best way to set font style
on html lists (“bullet point text”).

The article covers styling list items, which is more than what you need–
the first bit on the proper way to make a list-- and the style for it-- is
what you’re looking for. I believe.

http://cssway.thebigerns.com/workbench/list-item-styling/

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