Draft pages with Freeway Pro 4.1.1?

Is it possible to mark a page as a “draft page” to prevent it from being uploaded? I know that this can be done with Sandvox, but as I am a newbie to Freeway, I don’t know how to do this, despite having searched the Knowledge Base and this forum.


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No, this is not possible. It is an often-requested feature, though.
Perhaps it will make it into a later version.

Walter

On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:15 AM, globetrotterdk wrote:

Is it possible to mark a page as a “draft page” to prevent it from
being uploaded? I know that this can be done with Sandvox, but as I
am a newbie to Freeway, I don’t know how to do this, despite having
searched the Knowledge Base and this forum.


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Thanks again Walter!


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You can make it as a Master page temporarily and it wont publish.
A sort of workaround.
Or you can dup the Freeway Document and keep only the spare pages - which
can be added back into the main Freeway document later by a simple copy and
paste.
hope this helps

regards
Brian

Walter Lee Davis said recently:

No, this is not possible. It is an often-requested feature, though.
Perhaps it will make it into a later version.

Walter

On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:15 AM, globetrotterdk wrote:

Is it possible to mark a page as a “draft page” to prevent it from
being uploaded? I know that this can be done with Sandvox, but as I
am a newbie to Freeway, I don’t know how to do this, despite having
searched the Knowledge Base and this forum.


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Another way to hide it, would be to delete any links to the “draft
page”, then no one will see it on the site or, better still, keep a
test folder for new pages and only copy them to the main site when
you’re completely happy with them. If you have a client that needs to
see them first, just give him a specific URL to each one.

In either case you can view your “draft page” via your browser(s) to
see that all works as you intended when on the host server - better
than just relying on your own Mac’s output. The chance of them being
found by outside forces is minimal in the short term.

Colin

On 16 Dec 2007, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote:

You can make it as a Master page temporarily …

… Or you can dup the Freeway Document and keep only the spare pages

On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:15 AM, globetrotterdk wrote:

Is it possible to mark a page as a “draft page” to prevent it from
being uploaded?


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Thanks to Bin-Ra and ColinJA for the workarounds.


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I tend to do this, but I assume that web crawlers will find the pages
along with everything else so there is, I would think, a chance that
the pages could be indexed. I have seen it said that is worth putting
in a metatag for robots that instructs Do not index. Does this seem
sensible?
Cheers
Pete

On 16 Dec 2007, at 20:32, Colin Alcock wrote:

Another way to hide it, would be to delete any links to the “draft
page”, then no one will see it on the site or, better still, keep a
test folder for new pages and only copy them to the main site when
you’re completely happy with them. If you have a client that needs to
see them first, just give him a specific URL to each one.

In either case you can view your “draft page” via your browser(s) to
see that all works as you intended when on the host server - better
than just relying on your own Mac’s output. The chance of them being
found by outside forces is minimal in the short term.

Colin

On 16 Dec 2007, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote:

You can make it as a Master page temporarily …

… Or you can dup the Freeway Document and keep only the spare pages

On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:15 AM, globetrotterdk wrote:

Is it possible to mark a page as a “draft page” to prevent it from
being uploaded?


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I am always glad to find that I am wrong because I love the truth - but I
don’t think a page without a link to it will be indexed.

Another step in this - if the page is sensitive - could be to have it in
password protected directory (via Control Panel) or at least make sure the
contents cant be viewed via no indexing or by having an index page in that
directory.

But normally this would all be overkill in my opinion.

regards
Brian

Pete MacKenzie said recently:

I tend to do this, but I assume that web crawlers will find the pages
along with everything else so there is, I would think, a chance that
the pages could be indexed. I have seen it said that is worth putting
in a metatag for robots that instructs Do not index. Does this seem
sensible?
Cheers
Pete

On 16 Dec 2007, at 20:32, Colin Alcock wrote:

Another way to hide it, would be to delete any links to the “draft
page”, then no one will see it on the site or, better still, keep a
test folder for new pages and only copy them to the main site when
you’re completely happy with them. If you have a client that needs to
see them first, just give him a specific URL to each one.

In either case you can view your “draft page” via your browser(s) to
see that all works as you intended when on the host server - better
than just relying on your own Mac’s output. The chance of them being
found by outside forces is minimal in the short term.

Colin

On 16 Dec 2007, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote:

You can make it as a Master page temporarily Š

Š Or you can dup the Freeway Document and keep only the spare pages

On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:15 AM, globetrotterdk wrote:

Is it possible to mark a page as a “draft page” to prevent it from
being uploaded?


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Sometime around 17/12/07 (at 00:09 +0000) Brian Steere said:

I am always glad to find that I am wrong because I love the truth - but I
don’t think a page without a link to it will be indexed.

If it has ever been linked to by other live web pages and a search
engine has seen that link, it can in theory still be indexed,
indexable, and hence findable.

However, if the page has never been linked to, and it isn’t one
that’s served by default by the server (named “index.html” or
equivalent), the only way it can be found is by guessing the precise
URL. Which search engines don’t bother doing.

How about using an action that strips out the content from the
published page? Apply it to the Freeway page, and whenever you
preview or publish, the page content is stripped right out.

k


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On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Brian Steere wrote:

I am always glad to find that I am wrong because I love the truth -
but I
don’t think a page without a link to it will be indexed.

Not quite true. Google for buzzicondo. This was a site I made
for a friend, hidden from general view.
I mentioned it on this forum in response to a question. The
crawlers apparently search forum pages.

Lou


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Yes but what I say remains true - that a link has to be SOMEWHERE for a SE
bot to follow.
So if anyone else knows the link and publishes it - (say via email in a web
forum) they can indeed lead the searchbot to it.

buzzicondo’s URL as you say was given in this forum and thus has been
indexed.
It is worth remembering this if posting a link to a sensitive site!

Of course if things are that secret they should be in password protected
areas etc
Its a weird wired world these days.

all the best
Brian

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On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Brian Steere wrote:

I am always glad to find that I am wrong because I love the truth -
but I
don’t think a page without a link to it will be indexed.

Not quite true. Google for buzzicondo. This was a site I made
for a friend, hidden from general view.
I mentioned it on this forum in response to a question. The
crawlers apparently search forum pages.

Lou


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RE the action mentioned, there is one called: ‘Content Killer’ that allows you to design the page as needed in FW, but the action prevents any of the html content from making it the remote server.

Note: It does not prevent the page’s linked resources, images, mpegs, etc… from being uploaded, only the .html of the page to which it is applied.

SoftPress Link:
http://www.softpress.com/kb/article.php?id=165
Content Killer, the description suggests it works for FW4. I have not personally used it in FW4.


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