Drag & Drop Photoshop Files

New Update!! It worked and then I updated and it stopped.

OK so the last updated version of freeway 4 (4.4.2) worked fine with dragging and dropping layers from photoshop CS3 directly into Freeway.

However… I updated to Freeway 5 Pro and the problem has started all over again.

The only way a dragged image / layer will now appear correctly in Freeway 5 Pro is if I choose to run in Rosetta.

If I run native, anything I drag over simply appears in freeway as a white graphic box with no content actually within it, which is frustrating.

Any idea’s or am I stuck running in the slower Rosetta once more for the conceivable future ?

Thanks…


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Sometime around 8/4/08 (at 06:42 -0400) FreewayUser said:

OK so the last updated version of freeway 4 (4.4.2) worked fine with
dragging and dropping layers from photoshop CS3 directly into
Freeway.

However… I updated to Freeway 5 Pro and the problem has started
all over again.

The only way a dragged image / layer will now appear correctly in
Freeway 5 Pro is if I choose to run in Rosetta.

Yuk!
And that’s also a slightly odd workflow, although I can see one
reason why you might do that.

The problem with dragging and dropping directly from Photoshop is
that you aren’t creating a file-based link to an external document.
You are, instead, just copying pixels from Photoshop to Freeway. Your
Freeway layout will have to contain the entire image data rather than
storing a screen-res preview and linking to the graphic file on disk.
Therefore, your layout document could grow to massive file sizes.

The preferred way to import images is by choosing File > Import or by
drag and drop from the Finder or some other environment that passed
paths to the disk-based file, not just pixel data directly. This
gives you numerous benefits, which I can discuss at great (i.e.
exhaustive) length if you really want me to! :slight_smile:

Having said that, if you are happy working with embedded pixel data,
then you should be able to approximate the previous behaviour (until
the failing is fixed, if it ever is) by copying and pasting rather
than by dragging and dropping. In terms of pixel data transfer the
effect is exactly the same. The only practical difference, other than
that of using commands rather than gestures to perform the operation,
is that you replace what might have been on your Mac’s clipboard from
a previous copy operation.
If you feel this is too much data to copy and paste, then it is
probably also too much data to transfer directly by drag and drop.

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On 8 Apr. 2008, 5:20 pm, thatkeith wrote:

Sometime around 8/4/08 (at 06:42 -0400) FreewayUser said:

OK so the last updated version of freeway 4 (4.4.2) worked fine with
dragging and dropping layers from photoshop CS3 directly into
Freeway.

However… I updated to Freeway 5 Pro and the problem has started
all over again.

The only way a dragged image / layer will now appear correctly in
Freeway 5 Pro is if I choose to run in Rosetta.

Yuk!
And that’s also a slightly odd workflow, although I can see one
reason why you might do that.

The problem with dragging and dropping directly from Photoshop is
that you aren’t creating a file-based link to an external document.
You are, instead, just copying pixels from Photoshop to Freeway. Your
Freeway layout will have to contain the entire image data rather than
storing a screen-res preview and linking to the graphic file on disk.
Therefore, your layout document could grow to massive file sizes.

The preferred way to import images is by choosing File > Import or by
drag and drop from the Finder or some other environment that passed
paths to the disk-based file, not just pixel data directly. This
gives you numerous benefits, which I can discuss at great (i.e.
exhaustive) length if you really want me to! :slight_smile:

Having said that, if you are happy working with embedded pixel data,
then you should be able to approximate the previous behaviour (until
the failing is fixed, if it ever is) by copying and pasting rather
than by dragging and dropping. In terms of pixel data transfer the
effect is exactly the same. The only practical difference, other than
that of using commands rather than gestures to perform the operation,
is that you replace what might have been on your Mac’s clipboard from
a previous copy operation.
If you feel this is too much data to copy and paste, then it is
probably also too much data to transfer directly by drag and drop.

k

There are a lot of workload benefits for the way I work too and may I remind you that what works for one does not work for all, and i find your response to be patronizing to be honest.

What maybe ‘slightly odd’ to you was once one of the big selling points of Freeway. I’ve been a user for a long time and the ability to create a quick effective website from existing data such as a brochure or cd cover, and take elements (layers) and drag them into freeway to create a website shortens my workload considerably.

If I have to create each element and save it to disk, and then import it into freeway then please prey tell how that is any worse than simply dragging and dropping elements directly into source ?

You say that my freeway project could grow in size experientially ? But I have to ask so what ?

Please can you equate to me how having two files which together most likely equal the same size of just the one embedded freeway file is some how better ? At the end of the day your still ending up with similar file size regardless of which way you operate.

Also if you import your graphic and by some strange reason the file or folder you imported from is changed / moved / deleted you are left in a pickle when you open freeway and it nags you that source material is no longer accessible.


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Sometime around 9/4/08 (at 08:54 -0400) FreewayUser said:

There are a lot of workload benefits for the way I work too and may
I remind you that what works for one does not work for all, and i
find your response to be patronizing to be honest.

I didn’t mean it like that at all, and I apologise that my words came
across in this way.

You say that my freeway project could grow in size experientially ?
But I have to ask so what ?

This directly affects file saving times.

It also has implications if you want to keep multiple versions of
your site for backup purposes.

And - just as a technical rejoinder - if you want to have the option
of being able to return to your master graphic to make a change
you’ll need to save that to disk as well, in some form, so you are,
technically, saving more data.

The issue of losing track of files is a reasonable concern, but the
solution is basic file management, a common theme with most
application use.

(Freeway 5 can also ‘unlink’ an image if you do hit this problem, so
instead of relinking to the original you can just turn off the nag.)

As I said, I didn’t mean my comment to be patronising, and I don’t
mean this reply to be either. I just wanted to point out that your
approach isn’t necessarily ideal. I did say that I could see one
reason why you would work that way.

My points are ones that hold true with all desktop publishing
application use, not just Freeway. It has been possible to copy and
paste data directly into layout and drawing application documents
‘forever’. But when dealing with larger amounts of data than
MacPaint’s screen-res 1-bit graphics it was found to be less
efficient. This is why the placed, linked file approach was
developed. This is considered to be the professional approach to
placing images in layouts in DTP environments.

I hope this doesn’t come across badly too. I do feel strongly that
this is the preferred, ‘considered to be correct’, and demonstrably
most flexible way to deal with images in all professional layout
applications, not just in Freeway. I’m also at a conference and just
about to miss breakfast, so I’m rushing this a little. My apologies
for any further brusqueness…

k


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