Hello,
I’m want to drop html from a previously designed website into Freeway in order to redesign it. Can someone tell me how to do this?
Thanks.
Ellie
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On 1 Apr 2008, at 07:29, ellie wrote:
I’m want to drop html from a previously designed website into
Freeway in order to redesign it. Can someone tell me how to do this?
Hi Ellie!
Welcome to Freeway!
There’s a KnowledgeBase article which explains it in more detail:
http://www.softpress.com/kb/article.php?id=207
Essentially, it’s quicker to start over in Freeway by screen grabbing
the layout of the current site in a browser and using the grab as a
page background in Freeway. You then recreate the essential elements
using Freeway’s tools.
You can also drag and drop text and images from the browser into
Freeway to get you up and running fairly quickly. It depends on
whether you have access to the original resources and whether you
want to work with the images in a different way.
Others may well chip in with their thoughts, but this should give you
a quick idea of how to do it in Freeway.
Cheers
Heather
“Freeway - Web Design for All”
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Hi Heather,
I’m going to try the screen shot approach, but it looks a bit
complicated to me…
When I try to drag images and text from the browser this doesn’t seem
to work at all… I’m using FireFox… do you knowof any reason why
this wouldn’t work?
Thanks.
Ellie
On Apr 1, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Heather Kavanagh wrote:
On 1 Apr 2008, at 07:29, ellie wrote:
I’m want to drop html from a previously designed website into
Freeway in order to redesign it. Can someone tell me how to do this?Hi Ellie!
Welcome to Freeway!
There’s a KnowledgeBase article which explains it in more detail:
http://www.softpress.com/kb/article.php?id=207Essentially, it’s quicker to start over in Freeway by screen grabbing
the layout of the current site in a browser and using the grab as a
page background in Freeway. You then recreate the essential elements
using Freeway’s tools.You can also drag and drop text and images from the browser into
Freeway to get you up and running fairly quickly. It depends on
whether you have access to the original resources and whether you
want to work with the images in a different way.Others may well chip in with their thoughts, but this should give you
a quick idea of how to do it in Freeway.Cheers
Heather
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On Apr 1, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Heather Kavanagh wrote:
I should add it seems that images and text can’t be dragged from the
browser and then dropped into Freeway…
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I just tried this and it seems to be working fine here. Draw a
graphics box on your Freeway page, then drag an image out of a Web
page and into that box. The edges of the box will highlight to accept
the drag, and then the image will just be there. You may need to
scale the box to fit the contents with Apple-Shift-D, but that’s all.
Is it possible that the image you are trying to drag is really a
background image? Those can’t be dragged, only copied as a screenshot.
Walter
On Apr 1, 2008, at 7:55 PM, Ellie wrote:
On Apr 1, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Heather Kavanagh wrote:
I should add it seems that images and text can’t be dragged from the
browser and then dropped into Freeway…
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Hi Walter,
I was doing it without a graphic box before… just tried it with
both an html box and a graphic box and the image isn’t visible…
there is just a little blue circle in the top left corner of the
box… not sure what this means…any ideas?
So far I have tried pasting the top button of the main nav bar and
the logo… I don’t remember if these were backgrounds or not… the
nav button is linked as a rollover for the home page… the logo is a
stand alone image with no links…
On Apr 1, 2008, at 9:19 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
I just tried this and it seems to be working fine here. Draw a
graphics box on your Freeway page, then drag an image out of a Web
page and into that box. The edges of the box will highlight to accept
the drag, and then the image will just be there. You may need to
scale the box to fit the contents with Apple-Shift-D, but that’s all.Is it possible that the image you are trying to drag is really a
background image? Those can’t be dragged, only copied as a screenshot.Walter
On Apr 1, 2008, at 7:55 PM, Ellie wrote:
On Apr 1, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Heather Kavanagh wrote:
I should add it seems that images and text can’t be dragged from the
browser and then dropped into Freeway…
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I should add it seems that images and text can’t be dragged from the
browser and then dropped into Freeway…
It is generally better to drag and drop images into a folder first,
then import them to Freeway. And with text, I would recommend
copy/paste rather than drag/drop.
You can copy/paste images from a browser, but it is generally better
to use images from disk-based files. Otherwise all the image data
must be embeded in the Freeway document, which can make it grow to
rather large document sizes. This will make saving much slower, among
other issues.
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On 2 Apr 2008, at 00:47, Ellie wrote:
I’m going to try the screen shot approach, but it looks a bit
complicated to me…When I try to drag images and text from the browser this doesn’t seem
to work at all… I’m using FireFox… do you knowof any reason why
this wouldn’t work?
That’s odd. It seems you have to drag them to the Desktop first (or
to a folder of course). With Safari, you can drag them straight in,
but with Firefox, not.
best wishes
Paul Bradforth
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Thanks Paul,
I was able to drop them in from Safari as you said, as well as into a
folder I will try the folder with Firefox and see what happens.
Ellie
On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:53 AM, Paul Bradforth wrote:
On 2 Apr 2008, at 00:47, Ellie wrote:
I’m going to try the screen shot approach, but it looks a bit
complicated to me…When I try to drag images and text from the browser this doesn’t seem
to work at all… I’m using FireFox… do you knowof any reason why
this wouldn’t work?That’s odd. It seems you have to drag them to the Desktop first (or
to a folder of course). With Safari, you can drag them straight in,
but with Firefox, not.best wishes
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Thanks Keith,
Seems to work fine… I also have all of the images somewhere and
will prolly do it that way int the end.
I thought it would be easier this way… somehow I thought I could
just drop the code in itself and then work with that… is there a
way to do that?
Ellie
On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Keith Martin wrote:
I should add it seems that images and text can’t be dragged from the
browser and then dropped into Freeway…It is generally better to drag and drop images into a folder first,
then import them to Freeway. And with text, I would recommend
copy/paste rather than drag/drop.You can copy/paste images from a browser, but it is generally better
to use images from disk-based files. Otherwise all the image data
must be embeded in the Freeway document, which can make it grow to
rather large document sizes. This will make saving much slower, among
other issues.k
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Sometime around 3/4/08 (at 00:39 -0400) Ellie said:
I thought it would be easier this way… somehow I thought I could
just drop the code in itself and then work with that… is there a
way to do that?
The code? Not the raw HTML code I’m afraid. Well, there are ways to
get that in, but when used for general stuff it isn’t particularly
effective or precise.
Think of Freeway as a full-blown, professional-level desktop
publishing program for web design. With DTP tools, it is best to
gather your images together and import them from disk - and that’s
the best way to do it in Freeway as well. You can drop images in
directly from other programs (although apparently not Firefox), but
the difference between drag-and-drop from the Finder and
drag-and-drop from a program is that when done from the Finder the
result is a link to the original image file on disk. When done from
some other program there isn’t a file to reference - that’s not how
drag-and-drop works when the drag target isn’t a file. So the entire
image data has to be embedded into the receiving document.
(This is a slight simplification of course. If you drag and drop from
Adobe Bridge, iPhoto or similar image browser tools, those are
designed to pass along a file reference rather than the image data
itself, just as if it was done from the Finder. But that’s because
those tools don’t ‘contain’ the images in the way that, say,
Photoshop does, they are really a kind of alternative file browser.
Other than the fancy features, they’re basically alternatives to the
Finder. But this is straying a long way away from what most people
care about. 
Basically, images are best stored on disk and imported by Finder
drag-and-drop or by File > Import, or stored in iPhoto and imported
by drag-and-drop or Freeway 5’s iPhoto import, or by drag-and-drop
from most other image library tools… the pattern should be clear!
Text - generally a simple copy-paste is all you need. Although it is
well worth using the ‘Paste and Match Style’ feature
(command-option-shift-V) in Freeway 5. In Freeway 4, choose Paste
Special and select the Plain Text option. This makes sure that just
the text data is inserted, and any styling that might be there is
stripped off. This wil keep your styles list trim and tidy, and can
help avoid posible quirks caused by other programs sneaking in
non-standard, proprietary style code alongside the text. (Yes Word,
I’m looking at you!)
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Thanks Keith,
Sorry I’m so late replying.
How do you get raw HTML in? I’m curious to see how it works…
Ellie
On Apr 3, 2008, at 5:08 AM, Keith Martin wrote:
Sometime around 3/4/08 (at 00:39 -0400) Ellie said:
I thought it would be easier this way… somehow I thought I could
just drop the code in itself and then work with that… is there a
way to do that?The code? Not the raw HTML code I’m afraid. Well, there are ways to
get that in, but when used for general stuff it isn’t particularly
effective or precise.Think of Freeway as a full-blown, professional-level desktop
publishing program for web design. With DTP tools, it is best to
gather your images together and import them from disk - and that’s
the best way to do it in Freeway as well. You can drop images in
directly from other programs (although apparently not Firefox), but
the difference between drag-and-drop from the Finder and
drag-and-drop from a program is that when done from the Finder the
result is a link to the original image file on disk. When done from
some other program there isn’t a file to reference - that’s not how
drag-and-drop works when the drag target isn’t a file. So the entire
image data has to be embedded into the receiving document.(This is a slight simplification of course. If you drag and drop from
Adobe Bridge, iPhoto or similar image browser tools, those are
designed to pass along a file reference rather than the image data
itself, just as if it was done from the Finder. But that’s because
those tools don’t ‘contain’ the images in the way that, say,
Photoshop does, they are really a kind of alternative file browser.
Other than the fancy features, they’re basically alternatives to the
Finder. But this is straying a long way away from what most people
care about.Basically, images are best stored on disk and imported by Finder
drag-and-drop or by File > Import, or stored in iPhoto and imported
by drag-and-drop or Freeway 5’s iPhoto import, or by drag-and-drop
from most other image library tools… the pattern should be clear!Text - generally a simple copy-paste is all you need. Although it is
well worth using the ‘Paste and Match Style’ feature
(command-option-shift-V) in Freeway 5. In Freeway 4, choose Paste
Special and select the Plain Text option. This makes sure that just
the text data is inserted, and any styling that might be there is
stripped off. This wil keep your styles list trim and tidy, and can
help avoid posible quirks caused by other programs sneaking in
non-standard, proprietary style code alongside the text. (Yes Word,
I’m looking at you!)k
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