[Express] Adding Favicon to site

I’m having problems getting a Favicon to work with my site. I have created a Favicon and it is in the correct format and saved as “Favicon.ico” in my Site folder. I have installed the Favicon action from the Freeway Actions website. The instructions on that web site are not too clear about what to do to get it all working.
I have installed the action on my Master page and it shows up in the top left corner as “Favicon”. I have run the Upload option to update the files on the server but the Favicon does not show up. From the upload log I notice that the Favicon was not copied to the server - how do I force this to happen?


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Hi Geoff,
With the page selected open the Actions palette (Window > Actions) and make sure the .ico file is specified in the controls for the Action. Publish and upload (some browsers will refuse to load favicons locally) and your icon should be displayed.
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Tim.

On 24 Nov 2011, at 12:28, Geoff Roynon wrote:

I have installed the action on my Master page and it shows up in the top left corner as “Favicon”. I have run the Upload option to update the files on the server but the Favicon does not show up. From the upload log I notice that the Favicon was not copied to the server - how do I force this to happen?

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Thanks Tim. I hadn’t checked the “Window” menu item as I’d already found Action items in the Edit and Insert menus and didn’t look further. I’ve done a publish and an upload and it is now copying the file to the server and displaying the icon in the Bookmark bar in Chrome. It doesn’t display to the left of the URL though (like the Freeway Talk site has a ‘f’).
I’ll keep playing around with it.


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O.K. finally have it working. The original Favicon wasn’t the correct size. I used the Tool menu in Firefox to check and it showed the dimensions of the file as 0 x 0 pixels!?
I recreated the image and used Gimp to convert it to ico and it is now working fine.
So, be careful when using the instructions on the Freeway Actions site - I used the tool that they specify on the web site to convert an image file into an ico file and that’s the one that didn’t work.


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Not sure if this is of any interest but I have found that using the Favicon page Action is a simple solution for adding a favicon.
I’ve never had to make any special file type or size for this as almost any image appears to work when it added. Obviously its best to minimize the actual physical size but it works a treat evrytime.


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Hi, Guys –

I’ve never been able to get the Favicon action to work. I’ve installed both the Actions Forge version and the Freeway Actions version but neither one works for me.

Is it possible that they’re conflicting with one another (I added both actions to my actions folder). If so, how do I delete an action (couldn’t find instructions on Freeway Talk).

Thanks,
Jamie


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If you have FTP access to your site then adding a favicon is dead easy and requires no action.

Simply FTP your favicon.ico file to the root of your site ie alongside your index.html page.

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You will need to do a couple of things to uninstall an Action. First, on any page or folder where you have added the Action (in all documents you’ve tried this on) remove the Action from the page or folder. You’ll know you’ve done it when the little “cog” badge disappears from the page. (Unless you have another Action applied to the same page or folder – the badge only disappears when all are removed.) You remove an Action by opening the Actions palette, making sure you have the correct selection (page or folder) and clicking the little (x) that appears in the Action’s tab when you mouse over it.

Next, locate your Actions folder. On Lion or Mountain Lion, your Library folder is hidden, so as to keep you from fiddling with it. To access it, click on the desktop in Finder and type Shift - Command - G. In the dialog that appears, type exactly this: ~/Library/Application Support/Freeway 5/Actions/General. (If you’re not looking at this message on the Web, don’t type the back-tick characters, they’re used to mark a phrase as code.) If you’re on Snow Leopard or lower, just open that folder in Finder, as it will be visible.

In that folder you will see all of your currently installed Actions. With Freeway quit, simply delete and empty the trash to get rid of any third-party Actions you may have installed. All of the native Actions (built in and shipped with Freeway) are hidden inside of Freeway’s application bundle, but I don’t think you need to remove those at the moment.

Finally, I believe it is important to save the Favicon named exactly favicon.ico in Windows Icon format. Photoshop won’t save that format directly, but there is a free Plug-in available online that will add that option to the Export menu. Have a google for it if you’re using Photoshop. Otherwise, GraphicConverter can definitely do this. Save the image as exactly 16px square, too.

As you are testing this, remember that Safari caches these images (or the lack thereof) and is ferocious about hanging on to them. You may need to look for a cache manager (I remember downloading one years ago, not sure if it still works on the modern version of Safari) that would take care of the favicon cache and allow you to delete individual icons or all of them. A simple way to test this is to use a different browser, one that you’ve not used on this site, to compare with your Safari.

Walter

On Aug 25, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Jamie Turner wrote:

Hi, Guys –

I’ve never been able to get the Favicon action to work. I’ve installed both the Actions Forge version and the Freeway Actions version but neither one works for me.

Is it possible that they’re conflicting with one another (I added both actions to my actions folder). If so, how do I delete an action (couldn’t find instructions on Freeway Talk).

Thanks,
Jamie


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Hi, Dave and Walt –

As always, thanks for the input. I do have direct access to the site via FTP so I’ll go that route.

And Walt, thanks for the input on how to uninstall Actions. I’ll take care of that, too.

Cheers,
Jamie


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I have FTP access and I just tried this but found it works on some browsers and not on others.

These days different browsers will show various sizes of favicon and it would be interesting if there was a way to upload those different sizes and then serve the appropriate sized image depending on the visitor’s browser.

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Different size icons can be displayed but only if specified as per HTML5 spec.

The current HTML5 specification recommends specifying size icons in multiple sizes using the attributes rel=“icon” sizes=“space-separated list of icon dimensions” within a tag.

Hence back to the issue of poor support for older browsers.

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I’m always amazed at how many people are using ancient browsers. I can understand to an extent if people are a couple versions behind with Chrome or FireFox given the rapid version change cycle but when you see large numbers using really old versions of IE it does slightly beggar belief and I can only assume their general experience on the internet is pretty poor.

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their general experience on the internet is pretty poor

They dont know any better!

How do you show them what they are missing.

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On 12 Dec 2012, at 13:06, Ashley wrote:

but when you see large numbers using really old versions of IE it does slightly beggar belief and I can only assume their general experience on the internet is pretty poor.

A lot of this is down to businesses. Large corporates often don’t update quickly. In fact, I have heard of a couple that have only just transitioned to Windows XP - which has been dropped from Microsoft’s own support structure some three or more years now.

For my own personal web site projects I don’t worry about browser support. Most of those I’m aiming at will be tech aware and use a reasonably recent browser. Freeway hopefully allows my designs to gracefully degrade for those who are stuck in the early 2000s.

=o)

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Surely just the fact that “stuff” doesn’t work and it all looks horrible ought to be a small clue…


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On 12 Dec 2012, at 13:15, Ashley wrote:

Surely just the fact that “stuff” doesn’t work and it all looks horrible ought to be a small clue…

Who’s to say what looks horrible and what doesn’t work? These are people who use Windows every day. How would they know any better?

=oD

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the fact that “stuff” doesn’t work and it all looks horrible

How do they know when stuff doesn’t work? They dont know it doesn’t work because that is what they are used to and they dont know it looks horrible either.

And in other countries their hardware is such that they are restricted to certain software - no upgrade path available.

And unless you can be a benevolent multi-gazzilionaire and hand out free kit to everyone that is the way it will stay.

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Much of this comes down to who you expect to be visiting your site and what you are aiming to achieve. The site I’m building currently is intended for the sales of an eBook and I know from looking at sales notifications in the past that people using XP or Linux only represent a tiny percentage of sales. It’s no surprise really that the majority of customers come from the more affluent English speaking countries and are generally using recent browsers and operating systems.

Looking at Wikipedia just now it looks like IE followed by Chrome are the most popular browsers in the countries of greater interest, so I should probably be focussing my efforts more on ensuring the site looks good on recent versions of those browsers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_by_most_used_web_browser.svg

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