[Express] Site (almost) not displaying after upload

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Hi!

This may belong to the support, but I make an attempt to post it here as well.

Now I have uploaded my new site using FTP.

When I enter landshape.net into my browser, it takes me to a place that looks to be the 1st level of my public_html folder, but without the newly uploaded files (and .DS Store added)

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My host, hostgator.com, offers a feature they call SecureWebDisk, which is my web space mounted as a disk image on my Desktop.

In this WebDisk, I can see that the files have arrived, (namely: blank.gif, index.html and the folders Album, css, Resources, Stuff, and Utstilling Oslo), but on the firsts level of my web space, not in the public_html folder.
(Hostgator’s instruction for FTP upload says the Path field should be blank).

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and when I double-click “index.html”, it opens my Home page in my browser.

However, when I go to ‘Oslo Area’, then click the link ‘Go to Album’, (at the bottom of the text), Safari “can’t find the file”.

A little more luck with ‘Utstilling Oslo’. Here, I come to the 1st ‘thumbs’ page. But 2 of the thumbs are missing, so are 3 arrow icons at bottom right, containing the up-previous-next navigation. The links from the thumbs to the full images lead to pages where the image is missing. …

Needless to say that all these things worked in the browser preview before I uploaded.

Anyway, I don’t like that the files are scattered all over the 1st level of my server space or even the public_html folder, meaning interfiled with system files. So maybe I should create a folder say ‘landshape’ inside public.html and direct the upload to that. How would I do that? I assume using the Path field in the FTP upload? What would I have to enter? “landshape.net/public_html/landshape” ?

I might also use the disk image and FW’s upload mode File Copy (I assume), in this case I could place things on the server visually. However, I had problems deleting a particular file (due to non-ASCII-characters in the file name?) of my old site content that way, and the support guys of hostgator themselves seem to think that the disk image method is a little vulnerable. Then again, the FTP upload so far doesn’t look too good either…

I have uploaded the FW document of the site to https://rapidshare.com/files/3004476430/landshape.net.zip

Kind regards - Hening Bettermann.

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Any reason you are not using FW’s own Upload facility?

If that were the case you should be uploading into the /public_html directory at www.landshape.net

David

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Hi Dave

thank you for this fast reply.

It was the FTP upload of FW I used. I just combined it with instruction from hostgator concerning the path (blank), but have in the meantime learned that this instruction will take me to the top level of my web space which I have not seen since I subscribed to the host, because the album landshape is my only content.

Could I upload to a folder public_html/landshape? So as to keep the album separate from system files which reside on the top level of public_html. (cgi_bin, default.html, images, php.ini and ). I find it confusing that the album stuff is interfiled with these on the same level.

Happy Easter - Hening.

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No - your files should go in the top level alongside cgi-bin, default.html etc.

So as I said in my previous post the directory path should be /public_html/

If you upload to /public_html/landshape then your site will only be accessible at landshape.net/landshape/index.html

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Thank you. I will try this. Hening.

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This is what I see in your webspace

This tells me that your FW Html files are not uploading into the correct directory. It also tells me that in your Control Panel you should set your Index Manager to ‘no indexing’ for your public_html folder.

It is not a good idea for anyone to be able to see the contents of any of your folders that doesn’t have an index.html file in it. I am surprised that HostGator do not have this off as a default setting.

So you want to upload your FW html pages to go in alongside this default.html page.

D

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The other thing that you should avoid - now that you have uploaded - is spaces in your file/page/folder names ie Oslo%20Area/Oslo%20Area%20%20Thumbs/

%20 is equal to a space character.

Instead only use alphanumeric characters such as (a-z) (A-Z) (0-9) and _underscores and -hyphens. Avoid anything else which are not valid characters and can trip up browsers/servers.

It is perfectly acceptable to use spaces (and other characters) in your Page Title - just not in the actual file names ie ‘big picture.jpeg’ is bad ‘big_picture.jpeg’ is good.

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8-2007.07.21%20M4B,%20780%20px.jpg is bad.

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Hi Dave,

thank you for your answers.

In parallel to you, I have been in contact with the HostGator support, they have cleaned up on my web space, and everything seems to work fine.

1-Concerning Index Manager:

It gives me 2 choices:

  1. web root (public html/www); checked
  2. Document Root for landshape.net
    This seems to be as you require, if I understand you right.

2-Concerning file names - I will re-name them.

Kind regards - Hening.

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In doing so, I run into a problem.

When I enter 2009.09.24_M1 as the title of the page (a Single_Image_Page, Einzelbild) in the FW document panel at left, the Inspector field for the page displays this as the Title, and 2009.10.09_m1.html as the File name. Looks OK to me.

The Titles of the items however, as displayed in the Inspector, seem to be generated by different rules. Derived from my image file name in the Finder which I have pasted in here, if memory serves me - but truncated.

E.g. ‘2009.09.24 M1, 780 px’ is truncated to M1780px. This is not at all unambiguous. “M1” means “Motive (subject) #1 for the date”, and that means many images will share what’s left after stripping the date.

Now if I paste 2009.09.24_M1_780px into the Title field, to make it unambiguous, this is not accepted - it relapses to M1780px.

I see that FW adds characters to make even these short file names unambiguous, but I think it would be an advantage if they were human-readable as well.

In particular so in the case of thumbs. These share a page, and here, the Item Title is displayed in the FW document panel (at left). It could be nice to have unambiguous, human-readable names here, in the example it would be 2009.09.24_M1_200px.

Can I achieve this in some way?

I see that the 1st page in a folder always has index.html as its File Name in the Inspector. I wonder what will happen if I put a different image in this place?

Kind regards - Hening.

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How about using 2009-09-24_M1_200px

That would work. Its the dots you can’t have.

David

On 9 Apr 2012, at 18:49, “Hening” email@hidden wrote:

in the example it would be 2009.09.24_M1_200px.

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Thank you! So simple - if you know it!

How about this:

I see that the 1st page in a folder always has index.html as its File Name in the Inspector. I wonder what will happen if I put a different image in this place?

  • Hening.

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quote That would work

No it doesn’t, regardless if I enter it in the Inspector or the side panel.

Otherwise, I have successfully uploaded the site, and it works smoothly and looks gorgeous :wink:

:slight_smile: Hening

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Hm - Even though I have replaced all spaces with underscores or hyphens, the address line of the browser displays both as %20, both in the FW preview and in the uploaded version, also after I emptied the browser cache. (Safari).
? - Hening.

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