font-weight property?

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The work around is to set Helvetica Neue Light in the font set, with alternatives to fall back on.

Remember that your average visitor is unlikely to have that font installed…

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Thanks for the above.

It’s a shame PC users won’t be able to see the ‘Light’ weight. Another example of PCs being a bit rubbish.

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Not just PC users I’m afraid - if you dont have the Font set and variant installed then you wont get the weight variant displayed.

Unless you use something like the Caxton action.

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Yes I understand that…

What is the Caxton action?

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It is an action created by Paul Dunning http://actionsforge.com/projects/view/103-caxton

It allows you to specify specific fonts and guarantee their display across browser and platform.

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As this method is a form of distribution, you should be aware of font licenses when using this Action. As far as I can tell Helvetica Neue can’t be used this way, even if you were to pay for a license to use it.

To be safe you should really only use the fonts from here (they’ve shortlisted all the free fonts suitable for this use): http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface Not only are they free, there are also some really nice ones too.

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:14, DeltaDave wrote:

It is an action created by Paul Dunning http://actionsforge.com/projects/view/103-caxton

It allows you to specify specific fonts and guarantee their display across browser and platform.

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Interesting stuff. I might give it a go.

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Just to clarify, pretty much every font on Font Squirrel should work in the latest browsers on both Mac and PC?

As I picked 2 at random and neither work (unless I’m missing something or have not implemented correctly). It works locally, but on no other computer.

http://www.austinwellsdesign.co.uk/developer/caxton/

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On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:40, Joe Billings wrote:

As this method is a form of distribution, you should be aware of font licenses when using this Action. As far as I can tell Helvetica Neue can’t be used this way, even if you were to pay for a license to use it.

To be safe you should really only use the fonts from here (they’ve shortlisted all the free fonts suitable for this use): http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface Not only are they free, there are also some really nice ones too.

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:14, DeltaDave wrote:

It is an action created by Paul Dunning http://actionsforge.com/projects/view/103-caxton

It allows you to specify specific fonts and guarantee their display across browser and platform.

David

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Hi Nathan,

There’s an error in the CSS - the reference to PhoenixScriptFLFRegular just says PhoenixScriptFLF. Changing it to PhoenixScriptFLFRegular will work (though I appreciate that this may have been generated using the Action).

http://users.softpress.com/joe/nathan.png

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 11:16, Nathan Garner wrote:

Just to clarify, pretty much every font on Font Squirrel should work in the latest browsers on both Mac and PC?

As I picked 2 at random and neither work (unless I’m missing something or have not implemented correctly). It works locally, but on no other computer.

http://www.austinwellsdesign.co.uk/developer/caxton/

Nathan Garner
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On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:40, Joe Billings wrote:

As this method is a form of distribution, you should be aware of font licenses when using this Action. As far as I can tell Helvetica Neue can’t be used this way, even if you were to pay for a license to use it.

To be safe you should really only use the fonts from here (they’ve shortlisted all the free fonts suitable for this use): http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface Not only are they free, there are also some really nice ones too.

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:14, DeltaDave wrote:

It is an action created by Paul Dunning http://actionsforge.com/projects/view/103-caxton

It allows you to specify specific fonts and guarantee their display across browser and platform.

David

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Thanks Joe I will check it out.

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On 22 Mar 2010, at 11:58, Joe Billings wrote:

Hi Nathan,

There’s an error in the CSS - the reference to PhoenixScriptFLFRegular just says PhoenixScriptFLF. Changing it to PhoenixScriptFLFRegular will work (though I appreciate that this may have been generated using the Action).

http://users.softpress.com/joe/nathan.png

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 11:16, Nathan Garner wrote:

Just to clarify, pretty much every font on Font Squirrel should work in the latest browsers on both Mac and PC?

As I picked 2 at random and neither work (unless I’m missing something or have not implemented correctly). It works locally, but on no other computer.

http://www.austinwellsdesign.co.uk/developer/caxton/

Nathan Garner
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Austin Wells Design Limited
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On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:40, Joe Billings wrote:

As this method is a form of distribution, you should be aware of font licenses when using this Action. As far as I can tell Helvetica Neue can’t be used this way, even if you were to pay for a license to use it.

To be safe you should really only use the fonts from here (they’ve shortlisted all the free fonts suitable for this use): http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface Not only are they free, there are also some really nice ones too.

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:14, DeltaDave wrote:

It is an action created by Paul Dunning http://actionsforge.com/projects/view/103-caxton

It allows you to specify specific fonts and guarantee their display across browser and platform.

David

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Have changed that, but neither font work still. I’ve viewed the page on MacBooks, iMacs, G3 and G5 using IE 5.5+ and Safari 1+ etc. but only the substitute fonts show up (Trebuchet).

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On 22 Mar 2010, at 11:58, Joe Billings wrote:

Hi Nathan,

There’s an error in the CSS - the reference to PhoenixScriptFLFRegular just says PhoenixScriptFLF. Changing it to PhoenixScriptFLFRegular will work (though I appreciate that this may have been generated using the Action).

http://users.softpress.com/joe/nathan.png

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 11:16, Nathan Garner wrote:

Just to clarify, pretty much every font on Font Squirrel should work in the latest browsers on both Mac and PC?

As I picked 2 at random and neither work (unless I’m missing something or have not implemented correctly). It works locally, but on no other computer.

http://www.austinwellsdesign.co.uk/developer/caxton/

Nathan Garner
Creative Director

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One Elmgate Drive - Littledown - Bournemouth BH7 7EF
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On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:40, Joe Billings wrote:

As this method is a form of distribution, you should be aware of font licenses when using this Action. As far as I can tell Helvetica Neue can’t be used this way, even if you were to pay for a license to use it.

To be safe you should really only use the fonts from here (they’ve shortlisted all the free fonts suitable for this use): http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface Not only are they free, there are also some really nice ones too.

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:14, DeltaDave wrote:

It is an action created by Paul Dunning http://actionsforge.com/projects/view/103-caxton

It allows you to specify specific fonts and guarantee their display across browser and platform.

David

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I think the supported browsers are as follows:

Firefox 3.5+ , Opera 10+, Safari 3.1+, Chrome 4.0.249.4+

I’d be surprised if IE on the Mac supported it, but I could be wrong. It’s working just fine here on Safari 4.0.5, Firefox 3.6.2, Chrome 5.0.307.11 and IE7/8.

Anyone else having problems with this page?

http://www.austinwellsdesign.co.uk/developer/caxton/

You should see this:

http://users.softpress.com/joe/nathan.png

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 12:32, Nathan Garner wrote:

Have changed that, but neither font work still. I’ve viewed the page on MacBooks, iMacs, G3 and G5 using IE 5.5+ and Safari 1+ etc. but only the substitute fonts show up (Trebuchet).

Nathan Garner
Creative Director

Austin Wells Design Limited
One Elmgate Drive - Littledown - Bournemouth BH7 7EF
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On 22 Mar 2010, at 11:58, Joe Billings wrote:

Hi Nathan,

There’s an error in the CSS - the reference to PhoenixScriptFLFRegular just says PhoenixScriptFLF. Changing it to PhoenixScriptFLFRegular will work (though I appreciate that this may have been generated using the Action).

http://users.softpress.com/joe/nathan.png

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 11:16, Nathan Garner wrote:

Just to clarify, pretty much every font on Font Squirrel should work in the latest browsers on both Mac and PC?

As I picked 2 at random and neither work (unless I’m missing something or have not implemented correctly). It works locally, but on no other computer.

http://www.austinwellsdesign.co.uk/developer/caxton/

Nathan Garner
Creative Director

Austin Wells Design Limited
One Elmgate Drive - Littledown - Bournemouth BH7 7EF
t 01202 301271 e email@hidden w http://www.austinwellsdesign.co.uk

Member of NAPP | Zen Affiliate | Dorset Business Member | YEC

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On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:40, Joe Billings wrote:

As this method is a form of distribution, you should be aware of font licenses when using this Action. As far as I can tell Helvetica Neue can’t be used this way, even if you were to pay for a license to use it.

To be safe you should really only use the fonts from here (they’ve shortlisted all the free fonts suitable for this use): http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface Not only are they free, there are also some really nice ones too.

Joe

On 22 Mar 2010, at 10:14, DeltaDave wrote:

It is an action created by Paul Dunning http://actionsforge.com/projects/view/103-caxton

It allows you to specify specific fonts and guarantee their display across browser and platform.

David

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Works on my mac in Firefox 3.5.8

A great advance in web technology. Other than some people won’t see the typeface, are there any other draw backs?

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None, as long as you provide good substitute fonts and only use fonts that have appropriate licenses.

Joe

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Works on my mac in Firefox 3.5.8

A great advance in web technology. Other than some people won’t see the typeface, are there any other draw backs?

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