Frames..so confused!

Ok this might sound silly… but what is a frame exactly… is it the same as a border? I would love to have a definition. Apparently my page uses frames and it is not search engine friendly, how do I solve this? Here is my web site:

www.glofashionaccessories.com

this is the first web I have ever built and I want to make it as friendly as possible since it is an online store :slight_smile:

Thanks in advance!

Gloria


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Ok this might sound silly… but what is a frame exactly… is it the same as a border?

Frames is a way to show multiple pages, potentially from multiple sources, in the same virtual page. The browser loads a frameset, which is a special kind of page that doesn’t have any content of its own, just a set of instructions about where to find the actual content.

When a link is clicked inside one of the ‘pages’ shown within a frameset, the returned page is (by default) displayed within the frame that called it. But if you reload the browser, you will go back to whatever page was initially specified in the frameset code, not the page you were just looking at. This lack of state is one of the reasons why frames fail. Another, perhaps more important if you are trying to sell to people with disabilities, is that they are really really hard to browse using a screen-reader or other assistive device.

The reason that they are not search engine-friendly is that while the search engine can crawl all of the pages within a frameset and dig out their content, the results that they return to a search request are links to the individual pages (which from the frameset’s point of view are really sub-pages) and not to the frameset in the state where it would appear if you were to load that sub-page into the frameset by following a link.

There are all sorts of JavaScript/Server tricks you can use to work around this, but they all boil down to a lot of hack-work for limited return.

Frames are evil, best to avoid them. There are much nicer ways to assemble a page from multiple sources if you really need that, but most people seriously don’t need them at all.

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Hi Gloria,

Your pages don’t use frames, Freeway pages never do unless you
explicitly tell them to (you would have remembered doing it if you did
it). I think what the person has mistakingly spotted is some
JavaScript that has been written to work on all pages, frames or not.

Hope this helps.

Joe

On 6 Sep 2008, at 17:13, Gloria Bird wrote:

Ok this might sound silly… but what is a frame exactly… is it the
same as a border? I would love to have a definition. Apparently my
page uses frames and it is not search engine friendly, how do I
solve this? Here is my web site:

www.glofashionaccessories.com

this is the first web I have ever built and I want to make it as
friendly as possible since it is an online store :slight_smile:

Thanks in advance!

Gloria


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Just to add, this article and the links at the bottom of the page are
all worth reading for search engine optimization:

http://www.softpress.com/kb/article.php?id=777

Joe

On 8 Sep 2008, at 10:28, Joe Billings wrote:

Hi Gloria,

Your pages don’t use frames, Freeway pages never do unless you
explicitly tell them to (you would have remembered doing it if you did
it). I think what the person has mistakingly spotted is some
JavaScript that has been written to work on all pages, frames or not.

Hope this helps.

Joe

On 6 Sep 2008, at 17:13, Gloria Bird wrote:

Ok this might sound silly… but what is a frame exactly… is it the
same as a border? I would love to have a definition. Apparently my
page uses frames and it is not search engine friendly, how do I
solve this? Here is my web site:

www.glofashionaccessories.com

this is the first web I have ever built and I want to make it as
friendly as possible since it is an online store :slight_smile:

Thanks in advance!

Gloria


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Thanks to everyone for the replies… everything was very helpful. Ok now I know my page doesnt use frames. There was this website that told me I did so I was confused. Thanks again!

Gloria


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