<http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/04/21/first.look.freeway.5/>
Todd
I noticed one of the posters to MacNN’s board for this story didn’t
seem to happy with Freeway. Claims it hasn’t changed much since
version 1.5. I’m using version 4, and like it.
Joe
On Apr 21, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Todd wrote:
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That’s like saying photoshop hasn’t changed much since v1. FW5 is miles apart from even v3. A load of b******
In todays market, a web design app needs to work the way a designers does. FW does this. Better with each version.
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On 21 Apr 2008, at 19:54, Joe Sporleder wrote:
I noticed one of the posters to MacNN’s board for this story didn’t
seem to happy with Freeway. Claims it hasn’t changed much since
version 1.5. I’m using version 4, and like it.Joe
On Apr 21, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Todd wrote:
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I think what it means is it is outdated and has not advanced as it
should have over the last couple of years, there are a lot of things
that leave it looking a little amateurish as an application and that
is what I think the poster was talking about. Softpress is a small
company with limited resources and that is also what one of the
posters was referring to as being one of it’s drawbacks.
I like Freeway too but… there are a lot of frustrating bugs,
features that could do with being integrated more fully and things
that could be implemented that it hasn’t got that would start to bring
it more up-to-date. These things/fixes/implimentations would probably
make it more appealing to other possible users… if circumstances
permitted it which they obviously don’t.
It doesn’t stop me from using it though as I put up with the
ittitating things rather than use the competition, the company is
generally helpful and so are many of it’s users, something that the
more finacial resourced companies lack… but I do understand what was
said.
On Apr 21, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Joe Sporleder wrote:
I noticed one of the posters to MacNN’s board for this story didn’t
seem to happy with Freeway. Claims it hasn’t changed much since
version 1.5. I’m using version 4, and like it.Joe
On Apr 21, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Todd wrote:
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Sometime around 21/4/08 (at 20:09 +0100) Nathan Garner said:
That’s like saying photoshop hasn’t changed much since v1. FW5 is
miles apart from even v3. A load of b******In todays market, a web design app needs to work the way a designers
does. FW does this. Better with each version.
My feelings too. Freeway isn’t perfect, but neither is Dreamweaver,
Photoshop, InDesign, the Mac OS, air flight, love, or the whole of
human existence. It is, however, very good, and to damn it like that
is simply ludicrous.
If that statement was published as editorial opinion that would be
absolutely clear grounds for a libel suit. And I’m saying that having
taken courses on libel in magazine publishing and discussed these
issues at MA education level with students and other staff.
I have responded with my own feelings about how Freeway fits into a
serious deign professional’s toolkit and on the unwisely blinkered
attitude that the previous approach shows.
http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/04/21/first.look.freeway.5/
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Keith
Given the scoundrel’s remarks about Rapidweaver (perhaps he works for
Realmac software) how would you assess the differences between the 2
programmes? RW seems v template based to me…
Pete
On 21 Apr 2008, at 21:50, Keith Martin wrote:
Sometime around 21/4/08 (at 20:09 +0100) Nathan Garner said:
That’s like saying photoshop hasn’t changed much since v1. FW5 is
miles apart from even v3. A load of b******In todays market, a web design app needs to work the way a designers
does. FW does this. Better with each version.My feelings too. Freeway isn’t perfect, but neither is Dreamweaver,
Photoshop, InDesign, the Mac OS, air flight, love, or the whole of
human existence. It is, however, very good, and to damn it like that
is simply ludicrous.If that statement was published as editorial opinion that would be
absolutely clear grounds for a libel suit. And I’m saying that having
taken courses on libel in magazine publishing and discussed these
issues at MA education level with students and other staff.I have responded with my own feelings about how Freeway fits into a
serious deign professional’s toolkit and on the unwisely blinkered
attitude that the previous approach shows.http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/04/21/first.look.freeway.5/
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Sometime around 21/4/08 (at 22:44 +0100) Pete MacKenzie said:
Given the scoundrel’s remarks about Rapidweaver (perhaps he works for
Realmac software)
I seriously doubt that. That sort of comment is rogue through and
through; I doubt anyone involved in Realmac would be silly enough to
risk that sort of thing. For one thing, it really could lead to a big
enough suit to close that size of company down. Not through legal
maliciousness, just through the likely size of settlement that could
be awarded. From a random individual that statement is regrettable
vandalism, but from a competing company it would be tantamount to
financial suicide.
how would you assess the differences between the 2
programmes? RW seems v template based to me…
It is. It is also quite flexible; it isn’t a bad product by any
means. But it is a very different animal indeed. I’m generalising
drastically here, but it is easy when you stick to the templates and
increasingly tougher the further ‘off piste’ you go.
For me, the difference revolves around levels of design freedom. I
want a flexible WYSIWYG layout environment that leaves me free to be
in total control of my design destiny. RW is more of a tool for
marrying a ready-made template (which can be amended, I should add,
but isn’t what I regard as a design tool) with the user’s content.
Some highly slick sites are made with RW, and its plugins make a
number of technical tasks simple, but it just isn’t the free-form
design and layout tool that Freeway is by any means.
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Given the scoundrel’s remarks about Rapidweaver (perhaps he works for
Realmac software)I seriously doubt that. That sort of comment is rogue through and
through; I doubt anyone involved in Realmac would be silly enough to
risk that sort of thing.
and before Realmac sue me I was only joking… the scoundrel is at
best just a RW fanboy
how would you assess the differences between the 2
programmes? RW seems v template based to me…It is. It is also quite flexible; it isn’t a bad product by any
means.
I see it gets good reviews here and there. I can understand why
people head for template based solutions. There is a confidence to be
found in something that has been deemed sufficiently well designed
that it is published as a template. As a starting point it offers two
things - if people like it you can keep quiet and bask in the glory
but if they don’t you can say, it’s just a template and I’m going to
do something better shortly. Much more uncertain to start from
scratch in Freeway but if successful the confidence payoff is greater
when you know it is all your own work, and the process has probably
enriched your understanding of a personal sense of design.
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