Freeway 5 Reference Manual

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Folks,
the Freeway 5 Reference Manual is upon us. You can download the manual as a PDF from our site, or take a high resolution copy to your local print on demand service, such as FedEx Kinko’s, to have printed and made up. A full set of instructions for printing at such print on demand bureaux is included.

Get the PDFs from here: http://www.softpress.com/support/freeway5referenc.php

Enjoy.

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Paul wrote:

Folks,
the Freeway 5 Reference Manual is upon us. You can download the manual as a PDF from our site, or take a high resolution copy to your local print on demand service, such as FedEx Kinko’s, to have printed and made up. A full set of instructions for printing at such print on demand bureaux is included.

Get the PDFs from here: http://www.softpress.com/support/freeway5referenc.php

Enjoy.

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Kinko’s is 59 cents (US) a page and the cheapest I have found is 49 cents a page. Thats 1 1/2 times what the program cost! Any ideas?

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Martin et al

I’ve had this printed twice by FedexKinko. Both times they did a
splendid job–B&W double-sided, color covers with extra plastic
protection sheets, coil-bound. The cost was $61 in total.

R

Kinko’s is 59 cents (US) a page and the cheapest I have found is 49
cents a page. Thats 1 1/2 times what the program cost! Any ideas?

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Paul,

Did you guys forget the table of contents/bookmarks?

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I don’t know how many pages 5 is but I printed out 4 on my own,
bunged holes in it and it’s full colour in two soft zip close binders
(I can add extra info sheets as I find them). Don’t really know how
much it cost but not much.

Carolyn
F4 Express

On May 30, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Richard wrote:

Martin et al

I’ve had this printed twice by FedexKinko. Both times they did a
splendid job–B&W double-sided, color covers with extra plastic
protection sheets, coil-bound. The cost was $61 in total.

R

Kinko’s is 59 cents (US) a page and the cheapest I have found is 49
cents a page. Thats 1 1/2 times what the program cost! Any ideas?

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Richard Logan
Managing Director
SoftPress Systems Ltd
Telephone: +44 (0) 1993 882588
Fax: +44 (0) 1993 883970
UK Cell: +44 (0)7961 613766
http://www.softpress.com

“You supply the creativity. Freeway handles the code.”

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Thanks for the info. Since I like color (very visual nerd) I’ll do it on my color printer, lots of ink but oh well!

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Just out of interest on the professional print side of things - try http://www.rcs.plc.uk

They pretty competitive on litho and they’ve just started digital. With just drilling and nothing special for the cover, I managed to get a price of around £76 (plus carr and VAT), which for the UK is reasonable. Anybody beat this?

K.

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Sorry - £76 includes carriage and VAT.

K.

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That sounds good Kryton did they drill the long edge (so that it will fit in an A4 ‘portrait’ binder ? and does that work OK. I won’t trouble you with more questions but do you have a contact name at RCS - I’ll mail them and ask for a repeat order probably. I’ve really struggled (and failed) to improve on your price. One place even wanted £200 + (based on their single A4 sheet price x 500) ! I might even do it myself but it’ll probably be £50 in ink ! Thanks for posting. Roger

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Actually I found an even cheaper quote. I’l post the details a bit later, but in the meantime go here < http://www.rcsplc.co.uk/tables/dp2008.asp?validform=0 >. If this link doesn’t appear email me and I’ll send it across. Let me know how you get on. You’ll see you can specify where and how many holes, you want drilling.

I’m sorry though, I don’t have a contact name as I haven’t used RCS for about 9 months.

Actually I may even print them myself as my Epson has a continuous ink system. Way, way cheaper than buying cartridges.

K.

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Should us UKers club together and put a bigger order in to get the price
down?

As for binding ­ I’ve found wire-o-binding is the best/most flexible system.
Until recently most software manuals were bound like that.

Also I have an account with RCS that should also give us a discount, but
I’ll have to check tomorrow.

Anyone else interested email me off list for everyone’s sanity: email@hidden

on 04/06/2008 14:19, Roger Burton at email@hidden wrote:

That sounds good Kryton did they drill the long edge (so that it will fit in
an A4 ‘portrait’ binder ? and does that work OK. I won’t trouble you with more
questions but do you have a contact name at RCS - I’ll mail them and ask for a
repeat order probably. I’ve really struggled (and failed) to improve on your
price. One place even wanted £200 + (based on their single A4 sheet price x
500) ! I might even do it myself but it’ll probably be £50 in ink ! Thanks for
posting. Roger

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Hi Peter - yes that’s a good idea though I believe the quantities would have to be quite substantial to get the price down enough to even cover the postage charges around the country, well worth having a look though, I have a couple of feelers out but don’t really imagine i can improve on the price that Kryton got. As for mailing you off list, I still don’t seem to be able to get into the “People” section, so can’t get your mail address - though maybe it’s me being dumb. Regards Roger

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Should have added this to the last post but softpress had a printed version of 4 pro reference for (I think) around £30 - maybe it’s too big a risk for them ordering enough for stock and not selling, I wonder what their printers minimum order is ?

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Pandion - very interesting, the ‘bulk’ order for UK users. I’d be interested, but I think I’d rather see a figure around the £40 mark, before I make a move and then preferably coil or wiro bound. Turning over pages in the current format is a major pain.

Any takers?

K.

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Can I make a plea for the environment by suggesting not printing the
reference manual but where possible downloading it to a spare
computer and having it open while working on Freeway on your regular
computer. This also makes looking up topics in the reference a lot
easier by using PDF/Preview’s inbuilt find/index function.
Philip Lock

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Hi,

Just a suggestion in regard to the on-screen reference manual pdf: It
might be a bit more useful if it had a table of contents that could
show up in the sidebar of Preview to navigate the documentation (Shows
“No Sections” currently which isn’t all that helpful). I notice the
“Contents” pages in the documentation itself are links… but once you
jump to any of them, you have to go all the way back to the “Contents”
pages if you want to jump somewhere else… not to mention figuring
out what page of the “Contents” pages you were looking at.

Mike Yenco
YENCO.COM

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I had the same problem on the Table of Contents so I printed that part for reference in finding my place. Admittedly a stop-gap measure.
I would like to see Softpress open up the comment ability of the manual so I can make myself notes.

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I work at a major university in Southern California and got a quote
today for just under $40 from our print shop. They are very good and
take care of all of our printing.

Of course this doesn’t include postage or handling but it’s in the
range. Sound interesting to anyone?

I dread the thought of what I’m getting into here!

But I’m going to order at least one copy for myself.

Bill McCarroll

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I work at a major university in Southern California and got a quote
today for just under $40 from our print shop. They are very good and
take care of all of our printing.

Of course this doesn’t include postage or handling but it’s in the
range. Sound interesting to anyone?

I dread the thought of what I’m getting into here!

But I’m going to order at least one copy for myself.

That 40 bucks is clearly for black and white printing only. I have researched getting it done in color (like the pdf) and the cheapest rate is $.49/pg plus additional cost for binding and trimming. That would cost about $225 for the ref manual in color. Ridiculous!

My option is to print the reference manual on my new Samsung Color Laser Mutifunction unit, with an expected cost of about $.10/pg, bringing it inline with commercial B&W rates. I can always take the resulting ream to Office Depot or Office Max and simply pay a binding fee to make it look pretty!

As to the environmental suggestion earlier about not printing, but downloading to a spare computer (or a second monitor), that may work fine for some, but many of us are using Freeway on the road on laptops.(me= MacBook Pro17) and trying to go back and forth between development screen and ref manual is just too much of a pain… and SLOW!

I am one of those who don’t like trying to learn or reference material via pdf’s while using the base program. I like having a book open in front of me, and I STRONGLY suggest that software publishers should at least have a REASONABLE and AFFORDABLE option for purchasing printed instruction and reference manuals. The lack of available printed manuals is becoming a qualifier in purchase decisions… one that publishers should be more cognizant of.

If the programs were more mainstream, and had significant marketshare, then outside writers and publishers would be climbing all over themselves to write tutorial-type books (a la “For Dummies”, and “The Missing Manual” series for programs like MS Office, Photoshop, Leopard, etc…) Out of the mainstream, publishers should do a better job of supporting their customer’s needs… and that means YOU - Softpress!

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