Graphic detail loss on import?

How come graphics loose their detail when they are imported into FW? Is this just to make it faster to load the page? I don’t think I’ll be able to use some of those graphics in such low resolution!

I need to turn this off, but the Freeway Reference Guide doesn’t seem to help at all.


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Sometime around 14/9/08 (at 15:20 -0400) Egill Sigurdur said:

How come graphics loose their detail when they are imported into FW?

Could you please give us a URL that shows this?

Freeway creates screen-resolution output from your images. As long as
you don’t enlarge your images past the pixel-for-pixel scale, you
shouldn’t see actual resolution problems.

Could it be that your graphics are being generated in GIF format and
you’re actually talking about the dithered pixel result of showing
full-colour photo-style images in a 256-colour palette?

Really and truly, a link to an example page will help us to help you.

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Do you mean the display within Freeway itself?
Or the jpeg compression setting applied as the default by Freeway - which
can be set in preferences or applied on an image by image basis?
Or images that should be gif being output as jpegs?
Or jpegs that could be imported as pass through being imported and
re-compressed by Freeway?

Freeway should not cause your image to lose detail or change its resolution.

all the best
Brian

Egill Sigurdur said recently:

How come graphics loose their detail when they are imported into FW? Is this
just to make it faster to load the page? I don’t think I’ll be able to use
some of those graphics in such low resolution!

I need to turn this off, but the Freeway Reference Guide doesn’t seem to help
at all.


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I normally do something in Photoshop, save it as a PNG file and import that into Freeway.

Look at this to compare the images (How it looks like in PS on top, what it looks like in FW below):
http://egillsigurdur.com/FreewayTalk/egillcompared.png


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Sometime around 14/9/08 (at 16:58 -0400) Egill Sigurdur said:

I normally do something in Photoshop, save it as a PNG file and
import that into Freeway.

First of all, have you tried just importing your native Photoshop PSD
file? You don’t need to export from Photoshop. That should save you
some hassle. It may also help with the slight tonal shift, although
that could be a profile issue.

Second, the problem I see is due to JPEG compression. JPEG is really
not the best output format for this kind of graphic, because it is
all flat(ish) colours and sharp edges. You’ll get cleaner results if
you choose GIF instead. Alternatively, push the JPEG quality level up
in Freeway’s Inspector palette - that’ll reduce the JPEG compression
‘damage’ that you’re seeing.

(BTW, this is just a fact of life with JPEG graphics; you’ll see the
same thing whatever app made the JPEG.)

When you import an image that is in RGB mode (or CMYK) Freeway will
assume that JPEG is the most logical output format. An image that is
already in an indexed-colour format or has just one colour channel
will be output as a GIF by default.

Most of the time the ‘RGB should be JPEG’ assumption is correct, but
sometimes, as with your graphic, the image is better off as an
indexed-colour file.

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I have read all the posts on this forum on color variation between PS and FW. Followed the numerous tips and advice to ColorSync, set my PS color output settings to Keith’s recommended settings, using tiffs as the primary format etc. and still the colors always washes out in FW

Here’s my sample http://freshbrand.com/STUFF/sample.jpg

Cheers

Marcel


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Sometime around 14/9/08 (at 17:32 -0400) Helveticus said:

Followed the numerous tips and advice to ColorSync, set my PS color
output settings to Keith’s recommended settings

Which ones? :slight_smile:

If you’re working entirely for web output then sRGB is better, at the
end of the process at least. I don’t use sRGB for my working images
because I use many different outputs, not just web, and also because
Adobe RGB gives a less restrictive colour space for editing.

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Keith I have been using these setting from one of your older posts

Working Spaces -

RGB: sRGB

CMYK: Coated FOGRA27 (although not relevant to web use)

Gray: Gray Gamma 2.2

Spot: Dot Gain 15%

Color Management Policies -

Convert RGB to Working RGB (others set to preserve)


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Now I have figured out that if I select the image and go to the ‘Item Output Settings’ in the Inspector, there’s a ‘Quality’ slider. If I turn that up to ‘100%’ the graphic gets a little better, but still there’s an exposure difference.

How can I set the Exposure?


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If you’re not using any actions for your images, couldn’t you import them as “pass-through’s” if they’re already saved out for web in Photoshop?

That’s what I do with my images. Save for web, get a quality reading, and then import as a pass-through or “ignore resolution” and then it’s all good.


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