Well here’s a workaround that I’m using now instead of manually editing the html source. In Photoshop, turn the png into a jpg of the same dimension with a white background. Then replace the broken jpg in the Resources folder with the generated one, and that’ll show the correct sizes.
Still… doesn’t solve the original problem.
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Are you saying that you are placing the new Photoshop jpeg into the Resources folder in place of the FW generated one?
If that is what you are doing then it wont work as FW will generate a new image every time you make a change to the page.
If you want to create your images in Pshop then import them into a graphic box in FW as a pass-through and FW will leave them alone. File>Import: navigate to the file in the finder. Click on it to select it. Make sure that the Pass-through check box is ticked at the bottom left of the dialogue box. Then click Open - bottom right.
Make sure that your boxes are big enough for the image. You may have to Item>Fit box to content.
But this doesn’t explain your strange behaviour and you should send your file to support(at)softpress.com so they can have a look at it.
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And another thing that you can try
Draw graphic box and with it selected File>Import. In the dialogue box that appears there is a check box for: Ignore Resolution (under Pass-through)
With this checked the pic file will be imported actual size.
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On 12 Mar 2009, 1:03 am, DeltaDave wrote:
Draw graphic box and with it selected File>Import. In the dialogue box that appears there is a check box for: Ignore Resolution (under Pass-through) With this checked the pic file will be imported actual size.
Oh this actually worked, thanks David! And the exported site then shows the correct image as well. Now the weird thing is: when I click on the preview, Safari still shows me the thumbnail image, although the FW rendering is correct. Maybe just stale code floating around.
Not sure if I should still email FW support about the drag&drop issue…
Cheers,
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Another thing to remember is that you can insert a native Photoshop
file (.psd), transparency and all, and convert to Type: PNG - Colors:
Millions in the Inspector. No need for white or matched colour
backgrounds and added shadows display correctly, too.
Colin
On 12 Mar 2009, at 01:15, _savage wrote:
On 12 Mar 2009, 1:03 am, DeltaDave wrote:
Draw graphic box and
with it selected File>Import. In the dialogue box that appears
there is a check box for: Ignore Resolution (under Pass-through)
With this checked the pic file will be imported actual size.Oh this actually worked, thanks David! And the exported site then
shows the correct image as well. Now the weird thing is: when I
click on the preview, Safari still shows me the thumbnail image,
although the FW rendering is correct. Maybe just stale code
floating around.Not sure if I should still email FW support about the drag&drop
issue…Cheers,
Jens
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On 12 Mar 2009, 7:28 am, ColinJA wrote:
Another thing to remember is that you can insert a native Photoshop file (.psd), transparency and all, and convert to Type: PNG - Colors: Millions in the Inspector. No need for white or matched colour backgrounds and added shadows display correctly, too.
Colin
One thing I noticed when I imported the png file was that FW turns that into a jpg with white background anyway. I would assume it’s doing the same conversion with the psd file for me? I haven’t tried it yet myself.
Was anybody else able to repro the issue above at all?
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The bug you seemed to have was the apparent failure of resample to correct
the pixelated preview.
As for viewing persisting error this is likely a cache issue with Safari.
all the best
Brian
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On 12 Mar 2009, 1:03 am, DeltaDave wrote:
Draw graphic box and with it
selected File>Import. In the dialogue box that appears there is a check box
for: Ignore Resolution (under Pass-through) With this checked the pic file
will be imported actual size.Oh this actually worked, thanks David! And the exported site then shows the
correct image as well. Now the weird thing is: when I click on the preview,
Safari still shows me the thumbnail image, although the FW rendering is
correct. Maybe just stale code floating around.Not sure if I should still email FW support about the drag&drop issue…
Cheers,
Jens
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You can also go into the inspector palette, click on the third icon over and change the image to another format and alter the settings.
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You only get a white background if you output as .jpg, because this
format cannot handle transparency. So, after importing, go to the
Inspector and change output format to .png. This applies to both .png
and .psd, but you must set .png colors to millions to retain
transparency.
HTH Colin
On 12 Mar 2009, at 15:10, _savage wrote:
On 12 Mar 2009, 7:28 am, ColinJA wrote:
Another thing to remember is that you can insert a native Photoshop
file (.psd), transparency and all, and convert to Type: PNG -
Colors: Millions in the Inspector. No need for white or matched
colour backgrounds and added shadows display correctly, too.Colin
One thing I noticed when I imported the png file was that FW turns
that into a jpg with white background anyway. I would assume it’s
doing the same conversion with the psd file for me? I haven’t tried
it yet myself.Was anybody else able to repro the issue above at all?
Jens
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The bug you seemed to have was the apparent failure of resample to correct the pixelated preview.
As for viewing persisting error this is likely a cache issue with Safari.
I tried the whole spiel again. I dropped the png file, it’s being tinyfied into a thumbnail inside a 780x300 graphics box, hovering in the upper left corner. With “Scale to Box” I get a horribly coarse image, however in Safari it then looks ok.
You can also go into the inspector palette, click on the third icon over and change the image to another format and alter the settings.
Oh nice, I haven’t discovered that yet! Thank you 
So… all the fuss in the end was really about nothing, huh? It all seems to work?
Thanks for your help, guys!
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With “Scale to Box” I get a horribly coarse image, however in Safari it then looks ok.
Follow this step with Item / Modify → Resample and you should see everything sharp and clear in Freeway.
When Freeway imports any image, it generates a 72ppi “proxy” of that image at the image’s internal dimensions, filtered through any scaling that may be applied to the graphic box you are using as its frame. When you have a high-ppi image, Freeway uses the DTP-centric image dimensions in preference to the native pixel dimensions you may be familiar with from Photoshop and other pixel editors when calculating the initial proxy view of the original. It uses this proxy image as a preview in the design view, but whenever you publish or preview a new resampled version of the original is created for your site.
As you have seen, when that image is 800 pixels wide but 400ppi, that means your proxy is only 144 pixels wide. When you enlarge the image to fill the box in the design view, you’re stretching your 144 pixels to fit 800 pixels of space. And yes, that looks especially awful. When you resample, Freeway calculates a new proxy at the current size in the design view, and throws out the old one.
If you turn on Graphic Preview, you will see this proxy resampled on the fly (at the cost of serious processor load).
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Sometime around 11/3/09 (at 21:15 -0400) _savage said:
Not sure if I should still email FW support about the drag&drop issue…
Why ever not? Please do it!
Frankly, I would lay cash-money on the problem being a usage
misunderstanding rather than a bug, no offense intended, but this
should certainly be taken to them for consideration.
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Yes - and I hope you now realize that there are a whole bunch of Freeway
users here who achieve all sorts of web outcomes such as might be imagined
or required, who are generally helpful and have a high regard for the
software even if it has some quirks or different ways of working than we
might at first expect.
So welcome to Freeway and please do ask before assuming or declaring
something is broke.
Walter’s object model overview is a big part of ‘getting’ the way Freeway
works - and anyone coming over from a code based approach will save most of
their hair if they get this early!
all the best
Brian
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The bug you seemed to have was the apparent failure of resample to correct
the pixelated preview.As for viewing persisting error this is likely a cache issue with Safari.
I tried the whole spiel again. I dropped the png file, it’s being tinyfied
into a thumbnail inside a 780x300 graphics box, hovering in the upper left
corner. With “Scale to Box” I get a horribly coarse image, however in Safari
it then looks ok.You can also go into the inspector palette, click on the third icon over and
change the image to another format and alter the settings.Oh nice, I haven’t discovered that yet! Thank you
So… all the fuss in the end was really about nothing, huh? It all seems to
work?Thanks for your help, guys!
Jens
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OK, I was having this trouble with a graphic I altered and exported from Pixelator. So I found this thread.
Didn’t read every post so sorry if I repeat.
When I first exported the graphic it was saved at 300dpi. The result was the “thumbnail” version.
I tried again at 72dpi and freeway rendered the graphic perfectly.
That is the key.
Always export you graphics, or convert them to 72dpi.
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Or check the Ignore Resolution option on import.
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