Header-Tiled content-Footer

still no luck, I tried various things with various results, but I am definitely missing something.


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Have you tried using the RPL Action? You apply it under Page>Actions>RPL. It’s a page action.

Just apply it to the page and everything acts like an inline layout.

Everything will push down the page.

If there’s anything that might be messing things up, you can eliminate it from the Action.

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I had tried RPL before, but it just ended up screwing everything around…

I tried it once again following your post though, and once again trying to modify the “existing” master page proved to have been the problem. I made a “new” master from scratch with RPL activated from the beginning, and now it looks like it works!

Well, I do say “look”, because a few things aren’t quite there yet, but it is still a MAJOR improvement, and it’s starting to get there! I will try to put a few hours on it tonight and hopefully it will turn out without any more unpleasant surprises.

One thing I’m still having trouble with is text placement: even if I hit returns a few times, when I preview there are never more than one line in between two text line (kinda like on this forum, text editing is really a pain ;). I know I have to parameters the text editing options via the Styles, but haven’t found the rule for that one yet.

Thanks for the help! I’ll work some more on it and let you know how it turned out.


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Make style sheets for all of your text.

If you’ve come from a print background and used programs like Quark or InDesign, you’ll know that’s a must.

With styes, you can add leading, space after or before or whatever you need.

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With styes, you can add leading, space after or before or whatever you need.

Never, ever use paragraph returns to space your text - it just isn’t right!

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That’s why I said to use styles.

Is that wrong? With the styles, you won’t be using multi paragraph returns.

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Is that wrong? With the styles, you won’t be using multi paragraph returns.

No its not wrong to use styles.

One of the first thing you should do when starting out with a site is think about your styles. They are construction building blocks - get them right at the beginning and it makes it so much easier later on.

With clearly defined styles a modification at a later date will be a breeze to implement. Change in one place, affect many.

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I make sure I have all my styles set up and keep an eagle eye on the styles palette to make sure I don’t inadvertently create the dreaded .style1, .style2 which seems to happen if I type directly in a run of text always!

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thanks for all the inputs!

I am currently experimenting with text styling in FWP. I had some knowledge of styles as I work in architecture, but this is a bit beyond what I normally work with. But I’ll figure it out as I go: unlike FW informations, text editing informations is plentiful around the web :wink:

I found out about the hard and soft returns (shift+return), which is something I never knew existed!

At the moment I’m trying to figure out why the very last line of text I write never shows up, even when I had a few more returns under it: text stops showing at the “before last” written line, weird… I’m guessing it’s probably something to do with my design, but whatever, I can just had a dot or something as a last line, since it’s not gonna show up anyway.

I uploaded the latest version for testing purpose: the footer stays where it’s supposed to now :smiley:

most of my pages contents are gonna be text sentences and pictures along with it (probably not side-by-side, almost always text…pic…text…pic…etc under each others (pics will be content area wide).

What would you guys suggest to be the best (cleaner?) way to go about this: write the text in the content area and add pics in between paragraphs, OR add boxes inside the content area (text box…pic box…text box…pic box…etc)?

Makes no difference to me, but I’m guessing it does for the html coding?


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Me again :slight_smile:

So, after some alone work, and then a little png quality and dimension trouble, solved thanks to forum users, I have a “recurring” problem.

I though my automatic height settings for footer was solved thanks to RPL, and since my master looked like it worked, I had begun to work on actual pages, but I now discovered that my footer only moves so far down before getting…stuck?

Footer stays to my min height or goes down a bit if content is bigger, but past about 1300px page heigh, one of 2 things happens:

  1. if master page setting is kept active (what I want) , then texts/images goes in overflow: page looks good, but only 800ish px of available content space, will not grow further?

  2. if master page setting is deactivated for the page (what I don’t want), then content increases as I need it and all texts/images shows up, but footer however goes do default heigh (over the content) instead of below? (ex: http://www.angeltech.info/creations_custom.html )

Any idea what’s going on?
(I’ll upload any screenshot of any inspectors you might need, just tell me which ones)


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really, no idea at all oO?


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I’m not sure what your footer is, but if it’s just the width of the center box then maybe try this:

Make a container. Paste the main center container in that larger container. Then, paste the footer container in that so it falls below your main container. This way, as the center area grows the footer will push down,

And, this entire center section will be out of the way of the two side columns on the right and left.

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Engel,

I may be misunderstanding, but it sounds to me like is you have “use master settings” checked there isn’t enough room in Freeway for all your content?

If that is the case, just set the master page to have a ridiculous height (8000px). Freeway will only make the page as long as the content inside it, so if you have 1000px of content on a 8000px high page in Freeway, it will publish as 1000px high. This should give you room to work with your content as it grows.


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@ Caleb Grove: that’s true, I could just make my MP ridiculously big, and I will if I can’t find a solution for “see below”

@ Robert B: I had done that once but didn’t like the results as the large container tile would get behind the footer and show trhough, HOWEVER I used that idea and added yet another level of “box inside box”:

I have: (header) + (middle & footer (middle (left column+content+right column) +footer))

Put that way it seems to work, my page does expand as needed! (keeping fingers crossed for no more surprises)

Still one thing though, which stops me from working on actual content:

the page works fine in a browser and everything is there, but I still can’t scroll down INSIDE FW ?!? I added content “blindly” by copy/paste and arrows/return key, but in FW I can’t actually scroll down further to see what I am doing!

To clarify I’ve added a screenshot of my FW window:
http://www.angeltech.info/index.html

-If you look at the scroll on the bottom-right, you can see it won’t go further down.

-Also on the “site” area on the left you can see all the copy&paste pictures on the page: they have “X” as if in overflow, yet the page looks like it works fine?
http://www.angeltech.info/creation_custom_.html


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-If you look at the scroll on the bottom-right, you can see it won’t go further down.

This probably goes back to your Page Height setting in FW - make it taller, and also update to 6.05 for bug fixes.

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Hi, sorry I didn’t reply earlier, I’ve been very busy lately and had put my website on hold.

I bought a license and updated to 6.06 btw.

On 10 Mar 2013, 10:20 am, DeltaDave wrote:

This probably goes back to your Page Height setting in FW - make it taller, and also update to 6.05 for bug fixes.

David

When you say page Height setting, do you mean what was mentioned above, just make the MP heigh way high? (measurement H: 800px > 8000px, that one?)

That’s what I’ve been doing to be able to work on my pages, but I would’ve though FWP would adjust that setting automatically, no?
Or are you talking about another setting?

Other than that, so far, so good, thank you all for the help :slight_smile:


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okay, this is making me crazy, every time I think it works, something pops up.

I made my page height 8000px instead of 800px on MP, but it doesn’t work on every pages! and sometimes just plain mess up the layout and sends everything flying…I’m at a total loss here.

I’ve uploaded a copy of the file:

http://www.angeltech.info/index.html

Would there be a kind soul to check it out and tell me what I did wrong? ^^’


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Engel,

I created an inline master page for you, download the new .freeway file here: http://cl.ly/2a2R283Y2A1b. If you try making the “Content” HTML box taller, you will notice that the footer gets pushed down appropriately. Inline is basically like adding the HTML and graphic boxes into a text flow. Think of the boxes as words in Pages or Word; as you add more text, it will overflow onto the next line. It won’t layer on itself.

Now, some notes:

  • Don’t use the RPL action, as it is redundant to apply it to a page built inline and causes issues.
  • You don’t have to add the content inline if you don’t want to. Just make sure that the “content” box is tall enough to contain it all.

Let me know if that works for you!


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@ Caleb Grove,

Thank you very much!

Right from the beginning I can see that, compared to your file, my file as different settings, the first of all being that almost all your boxes have a “CSS” check, whereas mines have “layer”,“lock”,etc, and I suspect that as a lot to do with my problems, and the fact that I obviously had gotten the meaning of “inline” very wrong.

Thanks to your file which I will be able to use as comparison, and thanks to a little .pdf which I just now stumbled across ( http://users.softpress.com/chrissowley/boxmodel-tutorial.pdf ) (persevering with researches paid off for once!) I will restart a good file from a blank page, and I WILL understand! (I don’t want to simply use your file, I want to be able replicate it by myself, and having a working example to compare it to is invaluable, thank you :wink:

I had it wrong from the very start! my very first box (and all others too probably) should have been added with the flashing text cursor active in the page, not just by drawing a html box.

I will restart anew, checking with your file at every step to make sure not to have an error slither somewhere without me knowing.

I’ll keep you updated whatever the result, and once again, Thank You!


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My website now looks, and more importantly, “behaves”, like it should!

http://www.angeltech.info/index.html

A big “thank you!” to all of you who helped me!

I finally feel like I understood what I did, and that I could do it again (and I will!)

Once again, thank you all!


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