If I create a web site for my recruitment industry client (using FW3.5 Pro), how do they keep updating the available sits. vacant without having FW itself?
I know it’s probably very easy but, with not having knowingly produced any sites that have that form of interaction, I don’t know where to start.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Max’s WebYep Action suite is one way of doing it (Not sure about compatibility with 3.5 but as we are now on 5 maybe you should upgrade anyway) - another would be to provide a database driven site in which you provide a form so that they can update the database.
David
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Thanks for that David
Is there a repository of information or a tutorial out there that would show me how do do the database site? And where would I find out about Max’s WebYep action?
I have the FW5 trial version at the moment but am having problems adjusting to it - I’ve no doubt it’s better, it’s just so different to what I’m used to!
Thanks again
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What you will need is the cms for itself. Created by Objective Development - WebYep, you will find a lot of information on their site. To make it really play nice together with Freeway, you can use the action suite (recommended for WebYep. I used WebYep long ago, adding it manually to Freeway. Max action makes it a lot easier). More about: http://www.max-izzat.co.uk/
An alternative could be Joe Muscaras action: tts - freeway actions. Instead of WebYep it works together with a cms called mini cms2: http://minicms.eu/home.html
Both, WebYep and Mini CMS did not need any database. Take a look at the demos, and you will know, if this kind of cms will fit to your needs.
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Thanks for that iwo
I’m not able to look at what you’re recommending yet but, possibly a stupid question, what is a cms?
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Hi Neil
CMS stands for Content Management System, and the idea is that you can upload to a site from anywhere, using a web browser, without having to go through your web design package. I use a simple, affordable system called Cutenews - http://www.cutephp.com
You need to re-name your ‘news’ pages with a php suffix and insert a simple bit of code into your Freeway page. Once you’ve done this, you’re pretty much set and your client will be able to update stuff on a regular basis.
For a simple example of one of my sites go here: http://www.fabnights.co.uk/fabnightsnews.php
If you’re interested I can send you instructions I did for my workplace, or if you’re in the UK, you can give me a bell and I’ll talk you through it
All best wishes
Dick Tapsall
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Thanks for that iwo
I’m not able to look at what you’re recommending yet but, possibly a stupid question, what is a cms?
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HI Neil
The webyep actions will work with 3.5 but your going back quite a bit. A lot of the things you can do with webyep has been geared around applying styles etc and even though I did have it running at home in Freeway 3.5 when I had my G3 I haven’t tested it on that app for some time .
I will do a quick test and report back
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ok… since upgrading my mac at home (the one at work was upgraded a year ago) I now have no macs that will run 3.5 as it seems it needs a non intel processor which I don’t have any more so I cant test it any more.
So if any one is running freeway 3.5 and the webyep action can you see if all the actions are working.
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Thanks all,
I’m quite surprised at the amount of response I’m actually getting here, unlike other forums I’ve posted questions on - I really appreciate it.
I’m going to look at what you’re all suggesting later but in the meantime I have another question:
In the past, I used to occasionally frequent another Freeway forum that appears to have been locked, on that site they had a specific forum for visitors to post their website URL for the criticism/advice of other members. Does such a facility exist on this site as I have a site that I would like some constructive criticism of.
Thanks again.
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Just post the URL here - I’m sure many here will be happy to offer help.
David
On 25 Sep 2008, at 14:10, neil.west1 wrote:
on that site they had a specific forum for visitors to post their website URL for the criticism/advice of other members. Does such a facility exist on this site as I have a site that I would like some constructive criticism of.
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Hi Neil
ok got freeway 3.5 running on the intel… yep it is possible but blooming hell its difficult and as sluggish as a slug.
Any way had a check over with the latest version of the webyep action suite within Freeway 3.5.15 and it works… though loads of things which I take for granted like floats and clear expanding divs etc… etc. which are lacking in freeway 3.5 make working in this application really archaic… I cant believe how far freeway has moved on in the last few years. So the answer is yes it will work but I would recommend thinking about a freeway upgrade.
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Thanks Max
Yes, I think an upgrade is in the pipeline. I was half way through creating a site using FW3.5 on an ageing G4 when I read it was easier to create drop down menus in the the latest version, so I downloaded a trial and opened my site on my Intel Mac. Unfortunately the visual changes (mistakes in the translation?) to my site and the general difference in look of FW5 scared me off - I know it was something that I could have persevered with and gotten used to but for this site at least, it was more prudent for me to continue in the old software. Now though, I’ve discovered this web site which is full of people who appear to know what they’re talking about when it comes to FW:) so I think I’ll go back and look at the trial when I start on the new site.
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Freeway 5 is a great choice if you can start fresh in it. If you are trying to migrate from 3.5, that’s two major and umpteen minor versions ago – the entire document model has changed in the interim. You would be well served by printing out your designs (or capturing them as screenshots) and starting over from that level. Take what it’s supposed to look like, not the actual document, as your starting point.
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Does that mean that I would still need to keep FW3.5 for the maintenance and updating of the existing sites? - seems like a bit of a problem if I can’t open the old sites in the new software without requiring a lot of work.
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Does that mean that I would still need to keep FW3.5 for the maintenance and updating of the existing sites
Yes, and for quite a while, that’s what I had to do here. But as you start new sites, you use the current version. Another thing you can do is translate the old sites using the screenshot method. But you’ll need to find a way to justify the expense of time required. So either the site has a regular maintenance schedule and you anticipate fees to cover the time you spend (so you essentially amortize the investment), or you will need to find a way to broach the subject with your client.
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Sometime around 25/9/08 (at 10:25 -0400) neil.west1 said:
I think I’ll go back and look at the trial when I start on the new site.
Yep, please do - I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. BUT - please
also note that Freeway is not really designed to read in any old
existing HTML code. It prefers to generate new clean code from
scratch from your Freeway-made layouts rather than touch stuff that’s
from outside. When used to create new sites it is impressively fast
and easy, and the output is standards-compliant, efficient and so on.
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Hi,
Is anyone currently having good success using the MiniCMS2 Action in Freeway Pro 5.5?
Thanks!
Paul
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I’d ask the same question…about client accessibility. Seems to me
there’s not a way to do this unless they own Freeway too–then what’s
the point?
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Hi,
Is anyone currently having good success using the MiniCMS2 Action in Freeway
Pro 5.5?
Thanks!
Paul
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MiniCMS allows your client to edit the site without Freeway. All they need is a browser of recent manufacture.
There are several others as well, with WebYep being the most integrated with Freeway. Pulse CMS, Perch, the new one from Ellis Labs (sort of a micro Expression Engine) – the list goes on and on.
Walter
On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Carol Sullivan wrote:
I’d ask the same question…about client accessibility. Seems to me
there’s not a way to do this unless they own Freeway too–then what’s
the point?On 1/19/12, PKelly email@hidden wrote:
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Is anyone currently having good success using the MiniCMS2 Action in Freeway
Pro 5.5?
Thanks!
Paul
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