I tidied up my desktop and threw away in Trash (and emptied) my freeway website. It took me 3 whole days to create and all I have is the published version and not the original.
What can I do? Any suggestions?
I have not repaired permissions but am using FileSalvage to look for it on the hard drive. Once I have the FileSalvage results, what type of file should I look for?
Haven’t tried either of these and what you want to spend on doing it is dependant on how much you want to do the job again.
Bearing in mind that once you have done it once it is a lot easier and quicker the 2nd time round - especially with Freeway. And you do have templates to work from in the form of your already published site (including the graphics).
Good luck with the recovery process and remember next time - back up, back up, back up.
Hmmmm. I wonder did you upload them? Go to the online version / go to view page source . I wonder if one could copy the source code and paste it in freeway.
Also, I did a File Salvage run all last night and it found loads of stuff but I was not sure in what format they would be. There were lots of HTML ones. When I asked FS to open some up, it crashed and then I had to press QUIT and lost the whole night’s work. I am going to go away for the day and leave the computer running with DataRescue and see if that will find them.
Depressed doesn’t even go there.
I asked my question on another forum and got the answer"Oh, yes, open your FTP program (I use Cyberduck), and just scroll thru everything. What you are missing is there!, and just drag that folder back onto your desktop.
Ive done this several times!
I do it a lot when I have a correction to make and I cant find the .html file in my messy Mac. So I just pull it out of Cyberduck onto my desktop, correct the stuff, then drag it back into your FTP, and it will ask you if its OK to override or somesuch word, and click it for OK. And you will have everything."
Will this work? Will I get the original templates and files or can I just make small HTML corrections? I need to add another three pages.
Just out of curiosity, if you open Freeway and go to File>Open Recent
do you see your old file there? It sounds like it may (hopefully) just
be the Site Folder you deleted.
Joe
On 1 May 2008, at 08:00, Frances Taylor wrote:
I did upload them.
Also, I did a File Salvage run all last night and it found loads of
stuff but I was not sure in what format they would be. There were
lots of HTML ones. When I asked FS to open some up, it crashed and
then I had to press QUIT and lost the whole night’s work. I am
going to go away for the day and leave the computer running with
DataRescue and see if that will find them.
Depressed doesn’t even go there.
I asked my question on another forum and got the answer"Oh, yes,
open your FTP program (I use Cyberduck), and just scroll thru
everything. What you are missing is there!, and just drag that
folder back onto your desktop.
Ive done this several times!
I do it a lot when I have a correction to make and I cant find
the .html file in my messy Mac. So I just pull it out of Cyberduck
onto my desktop, correct the stuff, then drag it back into your FTP,
and it will ask you if its OK to override or somesuch word, and
click it for OK. And you will have everything."
Will this work? Will I get the original templates and files or can
I just make small HTML corrections? I need to add another three
pages.
In that case, if you can’t recover it from your recovery program then
the easiest thing to do would be to open your live site in Safari and
drag the images into the Finder first and then to Freeway (or even
better, if you have your original images use those) and copy and paste
the text into Freeway.
Joe
On 1 May 2008, at 09:02, Frances Taylor wrote:
no
On 1 May 2008, at 08:46, Joe Billings wrote:
Hi Frances,
Just out of curiosity, if you open Freeway and go to File>Open Recent
do you see your old file there? It sounds like it may (hopefully)
just
be the Site Folder you deleted.
Joe
On 1 May 2008, at 08:00, Frances Taylor wrote:
I did upload them.
Also, I did a File Salvage run all last night and it found loads of
stuff but I was not sure in what format they would be. There were
lots of HTML ones. When I asked FS to open some up, it crashed and
then I had to press QUIT and lost the whole night’s work. I am
going to go away for the day and leave the computer running with
DataRescue and see if that will find them.
Depressed doesn’t even go there.
I asked my question on another forum and got the answer"Oh, yes,
open your FTP program (I use Cyberduck), and just scroll thru
everything. What you are missing is there!, and just drag that
folder back onto your desktop.
Ive done this several times!
I do it a lot when I have a correction to make and I cant find
the .html file in my messy Mac. So I just pull it out of Cyberduck
onto my desktop, correct the stuff, then drag it back into your FTP,
and it will ask you if its OK to override or somesuch word, and
click it for OK. And you will have everything."
Will this work? Will I get the original templates and files or can
I just make small HTML corrections? I need to add another three
pages.
This is how you would work with an HTML editing program, like
Dreamweaver or a text editor. But Freeway doesn’t read HTML, it only
writes it better than most humans can.
A Freeway file is a binary file in a proprietary format that only
Freeway can read. If you have that one file, you have your entire
site in one place.
If you have a folder full of HTML and associated resources, you have
the work product from that Freeway file, nothing more.
It’s analogous to having a pile of printed paper proofs rather than a
QuarkXPress or InDesign page layout file. You can show it to people,
but you can’t do anything further with it.
Walter
On May 1, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Frances Taylor wrote:
I asked my question on another forum and got the answer"Oh, yes,
open your FTP program (I use Cyberduck), and just scroll thru
everything. What you are missing is there!, and just drag that
folder back onto your desktop.
Ive done this several times!
I do it a lot when I have a correction to make and I cant find
the .html file in my messy Mac. So I just pull it out of Cyberduck
onto my desktop, correct the stuff, then drag it back into your
FTP, and it will ask you if its OK to override or somesuch word,
and click it for OK. And you will have everything."
Will this work? Will I get the original templates and files or can
I just make small HTML corrections? I need to add another three
pages.
i know it’s an old topic, i appoligise. but may i ask iff Frances did get his website back? and perhaps somebody does know how to put the freeway file to recognize his files i’m having such a hard time right now.
i do have a huge map but a non working fw file… i’m sort of desparate…
i do have a huge map but a non working fw file… i’m sort of desparate…
Freeway is not an HTML editor, it is an HTML generator. If you need
to recreate a site that currently only exists in HTML form then
you’ll need to recreate it from scratch, more or less. You can make
images of the pages (screengrab and crop) and set those as page
backgrounds to help you position and scale things. But no, it isn’t
as simple as simply importing and clicking your fingers - sorry!
Thanks Keith,
i was afraid it was like that…
but since the topic was old… and the updates … perhaps something was a little bit different, or a magic sollution had been found. hahahaha, ( you never know do you?)
thanks ! let’s put a sock in it and go to work…
I was wondering, why not just download the entire site’s contents if everything was uploaded and running? Would it work or is the output different than a native Freeway file format? And wouldn’t FW back up it’s own native files to the site as a backup anyway?
Eus - you have the correct FW file but it’s not working? Was it created in a different version than the one you are using currently? Do you have a HD backup regimen? Always a good idea. Being super paranoid, I run a Time Machine constantly, a Super Duper every few days or immediately as I have a big project come through, plus a Carbon Copy Clone weekly!
Freeway is not an HTML editor, it is an HTML generator. If you need
to recreate a site that currently only exists in HTML form then
you’ll need to recreate it from scratch, more or less.
That answered one bit of my post - but then why would FW not upload it’s own proprietary files into an “unseen” directory, as a backup of itself to a site, when uploaded? Seems pretty much a no brainer.
Sometime around 20/10/09 (at 11:33 -0400) igirl said:
why would FW not upload it’s own proprietary files into an “unseen”
directory, as a backup of itself to a site, when uploaded? Seems
pretty much a no brainer.
Until you check the file size of your Freeway site documents… and
the associated original graphics - PSDs, etc. One site that could be
a couple of megabytes in size in HTML and web graphic format could be
50MB, 100MB or more in terms of the original source documents and
Freeway document.
First problem: upload speed would be rather seriously impacted. It
could also push many people into data traffic overload and surcharge
territory for their broadband connection.
Second problem: this could quickly fill someone’s web space capacity.
This is also why there isn’t an auto-save option. That’s fine for
apps that work with doc sizes typically measured in kilobytes, where
a background save is pretty much unnoticable. But if the file is 20
or 30 MB or more and takes 10, 20 seconds or longer to save…
All worthy ideas, but unfortunately these things aren’t practical.
Freeway files can be massively large on disk, because Freeway caches
proxy versions of your high-resolution original files within the
document itself. Uploading a binary file (like a Freeway document) to
a server means deleting the remote file and uploading a new file which
might differ from the previous version by only one binary bit. There’s
no way to reach into the remote Freeway file and update only the parts
of it that changed. So it’s a gigantic waste of resources and time.
In contrast, a collection of HTML files may change wildly and only
require a handful of 30 - 50 K files to be deleted and uploaded.
It sounds like you have a great backup strategy going there, you’re a
model for the rest of us to follow. You’re keeping the hard job of
updating the Freeway backup where it belongs – on your desktop over
FireWire or USB2 or Gigabit Ethernet, at local storage speeds. Just
remember to save your Freeway file before every upload.
Walter
On Oct 20, 2009, at 11:33 AM, igirl wrote:
On 20 Oct 2009, 3:16 pm, thatkeith wrote:
Freeway is not an HTML editor, it is an HTML generator. If you need
to recreate a site that currently only exists in HTML form then
you’ll need to recreate it from scratch, more or less.
That answered one bit of my post - but then why would FW not upload
it’s own proprietary files into an “unseen” directory, as a backup
of itself to a site, when uploaded? Seems pretty much a no
brainer.
Thanks Keith and Walt - I understand better now why FW doesn’t back itself up!
It sounds like you have a great backup strategy going there, you’re a model for the rest of us to follow. You’re keeping the hard job of updating the Freeway backup where it belongs — on your desktop over FireWire or USB2 or Gigabit Ethernet, at local storage speeds. Just remember to save your Freeway file before every upload.
I deal with client data, so it’s critical - (my weakest link in the chain are Compact Flash cards).
I might add for those at home taking notes - Time Machine. Super Duper and CCC backups are all done on 3 different HDs - not just partitions, and my weekly backup is taken to a different location when completed…just in case.
And wouldn’t FW back up it’s own native files to the site as a
backup anyway?
I don’t particularly want Freeway uploading site documents several
tens of megabytes in size, thank you. It can be bad enough when it’s
uploading attached PDFs…
To be honest, everyone ought to have a proper robust backup system in
place. I use Apple’s Time Machine, and also make manual backups of
work files to another disk once a week. Time Machine has saved my
bacon more than once when I’ve inadvertently saved over a file I
wanted to keep in an older form.
Love to see the topic alive again :-),
Igirl, i do have the same backup strategy as you have. but it’s more complicated! we had a burglar situation and the disk i have to save, is one that has been found in the mud.
I needed it right away!
All my backup files are stolen, this is one of my backup disks i’m trying to get some of my work back. ( on a borrowd mac )
So i’m still hoping, my original hd comes back ( in your dreams honey) but until that day, i only have this crashed ( because the people who where in my house, did not do it so neat) and it’s all i have.
Until now, the funniest thing happend;
Datarescue 2…
i have some FW files back, that even work… ( yes i know… i’m in awe to… don’t know why they do it so nice!! but i’m not complaining!!!)
and some don’t want to be read. *( even though they are made at same version, map orders etc as the others)
it’s so funny to be able to open this whole freeway file AND backup file! it’s now more than 24 hours i’m working on it, ( i’m going to go to sleep a bit now) but if you are interessted, i will let you guy’s know what happends to the rest.
Thanks for all your advise, its very very much appreciated!
Eus
i’m having such a hard time right now.