I have some text with the leading set to 70%, which works fine in Safari and Firefox, but is ignored in IE7. Are there any work arounds for this?
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Set the leading to em’s for example enter 1.8em in the Freeway dialogue box. This should work.
On 20 May 2008, at 13:42, TDW wrote:
I have some text with the leading set to 70%, which works fine in Safari and Firefox, but is ignored in IE7. Are there any work arounds for this?
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When you set a number for Leading in Freeway 5, it is translated into the CSS property ‘line-height’. If you enter a percentage % into the leading field (say 140%) Freeway 5 translates that to the number unit 1.4 – as in ‘line-height:1.4’ which modern browsers take as “1.4 times the text height”, or 140%. Most modern browsers will recognize a number of units for this property – here are some comparisons of all the valid measurements for line-height that I know: http://www.thebigerns.com/freeway/workbench/fw5_leading-tdw/
Brief research on my part found no problems with percentages in IE7 (although I hadn’t tested an amount smaller than 100%). If I find time later, I may revisit this issue in more detail.
David Owen wrote:
Set the leading to em’s for example enter 1.8em in the Freeway dialogue box. This should work.
On 20 May 2008, at 13:42, TDW wrote:
I have some text with the leading set to 70%, which works fine in Safari and Firefox, but is ignored in IE7. Are there any work arounds for this?
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I can’t find a setting for ems, so tried pixels (px) instead, but with similar results, Safari and Firefox are fine, IE 7 does not respond correctly. Not sure what you meant by “Freeway dialogue box”, as the only choice seems to be % and px.
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The second column in my example (after ‘Normal’) is the regular Freeway % setting you said was giving you problems. The rest are styled by using the Extended button in the Edit Styles window to manually set the line-height attribute.
Pixel and Point settings are the least desirable, which is why I highlighted them in grey. They are not treated the same in every browser and zoom unpredictably.
I have updated my example at http://www.thebigerns.com/freeway/workbench/fw5_leading-tdw/
to show negative leading values as well.
I have tested the page in IE7 and IE6, Firefox and Safari. IE7 does respond correctly, so I’m at a loss to understand why it’s not working for you. Obviously there is something else at work in your problem.
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:26 AM, TDW wrote:
I can’t find a setting for ems, so tried pixels (px) instead, but with similar results, Safari and Firefox are fine, IE 7 does not respond correctly. Not sure what you meant by “Freeway dialogue box”, as the only choice seems to be % and px.
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I recognise the value of this forum, and the manuals and tutorials
and other Freeway support, but is there a “Freeway for Dummies” type
of publication the group could recommend for the Freeway newcomer?
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Philip Lock
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Sadly, no. This subject has been brought up many times in the past. It’s an economic thing rather than a lack of will. Freeway has too small a user base to make such a book viable.
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Sometime around 22/5/08 (at 07:00 -0400) Paul said:
Freeway has too small a user base to make such a book viable.
As do many other worthy apps. To summarise things brutally, a
publisher needs a very strong reason to believe that sales would pass
the 5000 mark in a year, through regular channels, before considering
publishing a book.
I’d be happy to write one, but it isn’t something I’d do ‘on spec’;
I’d need a contract with a publisher.
k
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Our company does Print On Demand, design, editorial, etc. maybe I can ask how feasible it would be.
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I think this may be a Mac vs PC issue, as the resultant behaviour varies between platforms. I’ve managed to get the desired result by using ems in the dialogue box (as suggested) with a pretty tight setting, which actually chops off the top and bottom of the text box, which I got round by adding returns to the text. The text leading appears a lot tighter on the Mac using Safari and Firefox, than it does on the PC using IE7.
Thanks for all the help.
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Sometime around 22/5/08 (at 09:01 -0400) Robert Bovasso said:
Our company does Print On Demand, design, editorial, etc. maybe I
can ask how feasible it would be.
It isn’t so much the material production costs and logistics, it is
the issue of producing the content. It is also the issue of
distribution; without a reasonably well-known publisher behind the
product it’ll never make it into the places that you need it to be.
POD plays an important part in the wide world of publishing, but here
it only solves one specific issue of many.
Writing a book-length tome to the professional standard that Freeway
deserves would be a serious undertaking. I personally* wouldn’t be
prepared to do this without a worthwhile advance, as it would take
many months of my free time - and I’m a very fast writer.
(* By ‘personally’, of course I’m referring to my wife! She’d
certainly have something to say about me doing a major speculative
project… 
Perhaps a multi-author approach could be taken, but I know how
complex that can be. And it would still need ferocious editing
skills, not to mention project management skills, to make it work
together. I am of course thinking about something of the equivalent
of the better ‘how to’ books that are sold in Waterstones, Borders,
etc., not a ‘village recipe book’-style production.
…Or perhaps that would be a way to go?
Please don’t see this as me trying to rain on this particular parade.
Someone, please, prove me wrong!
I’d love to write a Freeway book, and I’d be just as delighted to
hear that someone else has done it, and I’d be overjoyed to be able
to point it out to people who want it.
But I’ve written books and I teach publishing through to MA level at
the London College of Communication (the renamed LCP)… and I get
concerned when I see too much excitement generated without a
reasonable plan to build on.
k
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Well, we’ve worked with “the big” publishers in the past, so we know how daunting this can be (Boy, do we ever!). We managed multilevel book series, also. It’s not easy and I didn’t want to give the impression that it was something someone slaps together and we just “plop” it out of a printer.
Just saying that we have certain capabilities in our place and if the time came to do a small publishing run, we could do it.
There’s a 3D app called Blender that’s FREE and they seem to have a user base big enough to have their books in Borders and Barnes and Nobles, so someone has the plan down already.
Of course, I’d be happy with the v5 reference guide, too, at this point. 
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Previously, The Big Erns wrote:
I have tested the page in IE7 and IE6, Firefox and Safari…
That would all be on Windows XP
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On May 22, 2008, at 6:43 AM, Robert Bovasso wrote:
I’d be happy with the v5 reference guide
Does that exist yet?
Jim
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Jim,
We actually will have Freeway 5 Pro and Express Books out in the next few months… (Summer 2008)
A website will soon be up regarding it…
Please check out on June 1, 2008:
The series is called, “Training Wheels 4 Freeway 5”
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