Independence Day! Hooray!

I’m free!

I’m finally done (not that one is ever done) with the redesign of our company’s website. We’re a small independent book and music publishing company.

It was quite a learning experience (and by that I mean hard and frustrating and maddening, at times). I want to thank everyone here who helped get me through it. Your expert advice and extremely useful Actions allowed me get it done with some bit of sanity remaining. This list is a wonderful resource and very well put together. I can’t tell you how many times I used the search feature and found exactly what I was looking for, thanks to all your helpful answers.

The site is nothing fancy. I’m no Web Designer by any stretch of the imagination. The goals were–readability, accessibility, easibility (I made that one up) and flexibility (easy to change and update). I made some mistakes that were too hard to turn back from. Hopefully I’ll take care of those later on down the road. I don’t think they’re anything too horrific.

If you want to check it out, it’s at http://www.earthen.com

Let me know if you find any glaring errors, or if you have any suggestions. I have no idea what it will look like in IE, I’ve only seen it in Firefox and Safari.

Again, my heartfelt thanks to all who helped. I sure learned a lot about FW. It’s an impressive tool, even in the hands of the unskilled, like me.


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You might want to try applying the “Remove paragraph tags” action to your form items. It’s wrapping them in a paragraph tag. It may cause a spacing issue, it might not. But from a Validation standpoint it’s not correct to have it.

Actions is found here: http://www.freewayactions.com/product.php?id=beta

(DISCLAIMER: I have saved a few documents with this action applied to a few things and when I went to reopen it I had data corruption and lost the entire file. It may be an isolated case, but it’s happened and I’m trying to recreate it to figure out what causes it. So Save As a new working backup file in case something goes wrong.)

But it’s looking good. The only other thing I suggest is adding descriptive titles to the pages. For instance on the home page you have Earthen Vessel Productions when you could have Earthen Vessel Productions | Book and Music Publishing. This will help when it comes to SEO (search-ability).

Glad the board here and its members helped out.


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Thank you for checking it out, Dan, and for the advice. Uh, what’s a form item?

Appreciate the help.

On 5 Jul 2009, 8:14 pm, wurliuchi wrote:

I’m free!

I’m finally done (not that one is ever done) with the redesign of our company’s website. We’re a small independent book and music publishing company.

It was quite a learning experience (and by that I mean hard and frustrating and maddening, at times). I want to thank everyone here who helped get me through it. Your expert advice and extremely useful Actions allowed me get it done with some bit of sanity remaining. This list is a wonderful resource and very well put together. I can’t tell you how many times I used the search feature and found exactly what I was looking for, thanks to all your helpful answers.

The site is nothing fancy. I’m no Web Designer by any stretch of the imagination. The goals were–readability, accessibility, easibility (I made that one up) and flexibility (easy to change and update). I made some mistakes that were too hard to turn back from. Hopefully I’ll take care of those later on down the road. I don’t think they’re anything too horrific.

If you want to check it out, it’s at http://www.earthen.com

Let me know if you find any glaring errors, or if you have any suggestions. I have no idea what it will look like in IE, I’ve only seen it in Firefox and Safari.

Again, my heartfelt thanks to all who helped. I sure learned a lot about FW. It’s an impressive tool, even in the hands of the unskilled, like me.

On 5 Jul 2009, 9:17 pm, Dan J wrote:

You might want to try applying the “Remove paragraph tags” action to your form items. It’s wrapping them in a paragraph tag. It may cause a spacing issue, it might not. But from a Validation standpoint it’s not correct to have it.

Actions is found here: http://www.freewayactions.com/product.php?id=beta

(DISCLAIMER: I have saved a few documents with this action applied to a few things and when I went to reopen it I had data corruption and lost the entire file. It may be an isolated case, but it’s happened and I’m trying to recreate it to figure out what causes it. So Save As a new working backup file in case something goes wrong.)

But it’s looking good. The only other thing I suggest is adding descriptive titles to the pages. For instance on the home page you have Earthen Vessel Productions when you could have Earthen Vessel Productions | Book and Music Publishing. This will help when it comes to SEO (search-ability).

Glad the board here and its members helped out.


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Sometime around 5/7/09 (at 19:14 -0400) wurliuchi said:

Thank you for checking it out, Dan, and for the advice. Uh, what’s a
form item?

Probably simplest not to worry about it, especially if you don’t see
any spacing issues when viewed in Internet Explorer. This thing only
gets the W3C checker slightly itchy; it won’t cause any problems
anywhere else. It is nice to have 100% compliance, but this
particular point isn’t a worry.

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I agree with Keith. You’ll just have to see if it causes a spacing issue.


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I still don’t know what you’re talking about, though. What’s a form item?

Thanks.


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An input item that will take either text (a text field/area), be set
to true/false (checkboxes and radio buttons), be selected (a menu/
list) or be clicked (buttons).

Joe

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I still don’t know what you’re talking about, though. What’s a form
item?

Thanks.


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In its simplest form its your Roman Cart markup item. In your code (View Source) it looks like this:

*<p class="f-lp">*<form action='URL WENT HERE' method=post>
<input types were here>
</form>*</p>*
</div>
...
*<p class="f-lp">*<form action='URL WENT HERE' method=post>
<input types were here>
</form>*</p>*

As you can see I’ve cut out the URL’s to the RomanCart and added *'s around the

(Paragraph) tags in question. As Keith and I concurred, if it works fine without a spacing issue in IE, then it’s not a big deal.


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Thanks for the explanation Joe and Dan.

Yep, there is trouble with the spacing of the buttons, someone sent me a screen shot. He was using FF 3.5 on Windows XP, though I don’t get that when I take browser shots of that configuration.

My question is how do I apply this Action? If I apply it to the page it wipes out some of my CSS styles. If I apply it to the div nothing seems to change in the source code. Do I have to apply it right to the markup item itself? I’m nervous about this Action. I made a backup of the site folder before I tried anything.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. You were right, there is spacing problems on some browsers.

Thank you.

On 6 Jul 2009, 8:11 am, Dan J wrote:

In its simplest form its your Roman Cart markup item. In your code (View Source) it looks like this:

***

...
***

As you can see I’ve cut out the URL’s to the RomanCart and added *'s around the


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I applied the Remove Paragraph Tags action directly to the markup items and there was no change at all to the code. If I apply it to any of the divs there is also no change to the code. The only time there is a change is when I apply the action to the entire page and then it screws up the CSS styles. Hmm? I don’t know what to do.

Any advice?

Thank you.


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Try using the Crowbar Action in place of the Markup Item. That will
give you the effect of a markup item that doesn’t introduce any P
tags. Be sure to read up on it at ActionsForge – it can do a lot of
different things.

Walter

On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:11 PM, wurliuchi wrote:

I applied the Remove Paragraph Tags action directly to the markup
items and there was no change at all to the code.


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Right on, Walter! That will work. I used the Inline Crowbar Action in place of the markup and it got rid of the “P” Tags. Very cool. Only problem was that the buttons would not line up, but I changed how they were embedded and that took care of it. I also had a margin between the two buttons and that is a potential for trouble. Now I just need to apply this to all the Cart markups on the entire site. An hour’s worth of work, I suppose. Not bad, and it ends up being a less messy.

Thank you! And thanks to everyone else, too.

On 6 Jul 2009, 4:20 pm, waltd wrote:

Try using the Crowbar Action in place of the Markup Item. That will
give you the effect of a markup item that doesn’t introduce any P
tags. Be sure to read up on it at ActionsForge – it can do a lot of
different things.

Walter

On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:11 PM, wurliuchi wrote:

I applied the Remove Paragraph Tags action directly to the markup
items and there was no change at all to the code.


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I think I fixed all the “P” tag and spacing problems caused by the markup for the Cart buttons. I replaced the cart buttons so they wouldn’t be the generic buttons of the OS and used Crowbar. Man, whoever came up with Crowbar deserves an award. Was that you, Walter? Thanks!!!

You can check out the results at http://www.earthen.com

Dan J, thanks for bringing this problem to my attention.

Regards


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