# index and exponent

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**Created:** [October 15, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949 "2008-10-15T05:38:23Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/1 "2008-10-15T05:38:23Z")

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Hello,

how can I write an index or an exponent in a text ? (H2O, E = mc2) I  
don’t find the text attributes inspector, where is it ?

jacques

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/2 "2008-10-15T06:08:15Z")

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Le 15 oct. 08 à 07:38, Jacques Villars a écrit :

> how can I write an index or an exponent in a text ? (H2O, E = mc2)  
> I don’t find the text attributes inspector, where is it ?

I have found something, but it was not easy : on my imacG5 the text  
inspector is in the panel \>fenêtre\>remplissage\>texte ; on my ibookG4  
it is in \>fenêtre\>règle de texte ; why the difference ? how can I  
change it ? under \>remplissage it is not logic !

iMacG5 20" — iBookG4 14" — MacOS X 10.4.11 — Intaglio 3.0.1

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Le 15 oct. 08 à 08:08, Jacques Villars a écrit :

> Le 15 oct. 08 à 07:38, Jacques Villars a écrit :
> 
> > how can I write an index or an exponent in a text ? (H2O, E = mc2)  
> > I don’t find the text attributes inspector, where is it ?
> 
> I have found something, but it was not easy : on my imacG5 the text  
> inspector is in the panel \>fenêtre\>remplissage\>texte ; on my  
> ibookG4 it is in \>fenêtre\>règle de texte ; why the difference ? how  
> can I change it ? under \>remplissage it is not logic !

I had certainly inadvertently moved the panel ; now I have dragged it  
in the right place ; it’s OK

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/4 "2008-10-15T10:47:33Z")

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OSX enables special characters (including Exponents) to be entered in several different ways.

The characters in a font can be seen and accessed from the Character Palette (Edit menu).

Open the Character palette and double-click the character. Alternatively, drag the character into the document.

Alternatively, use Unicode. Hold down the Option key and type ‘00B2’. The standard 2 is replaced by the Superscript two character (also known as a ‘Superior’).

Some fonts contain a features menu from which special characters can be accessed. Open the Font Panel (Command-T), click the ‘gear’ icon and choose ‘Typography’ from the menu that appears. The menu lists the font features for the current font. If a ‘Vertical Position’ feature displays, click the ‘Superiors’ button.

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/5 "2008-10-15T12:33:54Z")

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On Oct 15, 2008, at 6:47 AM, IanB wrote:

> OSX enables special characters (including Exponents) to be entered  
> in several different ways.
> 
> The characters in a font can be seen and accessed from the  
> Character Palette (Edit menu).
> 
> Open the Character palette and double-click the character.  
> Alternatively, drag the character into the document.
> 
> Alternatively, use Unicode. Hold down the Option key and type  
> ‘00B2’. The standard 2 is replaced by the Superscript two character  
> (also known as a ‘Superior’).
> 
> Some fonts contain a features menu from which special characters  
> can be accessed. Open the Font Panel (Command-T), click the ‘gear’  
> icon and choose ‘Typography’ from the menu that appears. The menu  
> lists the font features for the current font. If a ‘Vertical  
> Position’ feature displays, click the ‘Superiors’ button.

Intaglio \> Scripts \> Convert to Superscripts

Regards  
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Le 15 oct. 08 à 14:33, Alain Schremmer a écrit :

> Intaglio \> Scripts \> Convert to Superscripts

Hello Alain,

It is exactely what I want, thank you very much ; I am going to see  
the other scripts too 😉

best regards

jacques

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Hello Ian,

The unicode super and subscripts does’nt exist in each font, nor for  
each digit and letter, so I had to use the modification of the  
baseline and of the size, for what the scripts are very convenient.  
But I don’t find how to enter the unicodes : you wrote :

> Hold down the Option key and type ‘00B2’.

It does’nt work or I don’t understand how to make this

best regards

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/7 "2008-10-15T21:15:45Z")

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Unicode method:

1. Select the Keyboards icon. It’s in the main Finder menu bar, to the right of the Day/Date.
2. Select Unicode Hex Input.
3. Change the font to Lucida Grande.
4. Type e=mc.
5. Press the Option (Alt) key and type 00B2.

Nothing happens until you type the 2. e=mc then appears, followed by 2 Superior.

Most fonts have 3 Superior numerals—1, 2 and 3. In the font they’re called Superiors, but the Character Palette calls them ‘Superscript’.

To find out if a font has the 3 Superiors/Superscript characters, open the Character Palette and scroll down to the rows numbered 230 and 240.  
Some fonts also have superscripts of 4-9 and 0.

The Unicode can be seen in the yellow label that appears when you click a character in the Character Palette.

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Alternatively, click a character in the Character Palette and drag it into the document.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 7:47am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/8 "2008-10-16T07:47:30Z")

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When I use RagTime  
Le 15 oct. 08 à 23:15, IanB a écrit :

> Unicode method:

> 1. Select Unicode Hex Input.

I don’t find where I can select this item

perhaps there is a difference between my mac os (I have Tiger  
10.4.11) and yours ?

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/9 "2008-10-16T11:18:37Z")

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"When I use RagTime”

I don’t know Ragtime…

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To configure Unicode Hex Input:

1. Go to the Dock and click the System Preferences icon. The System Preferences panel appears.
2. Click the ‘Input Menu’ tab.
3. In the list that appears, scroll down to “Unicode Hex Input’.
4. Click the checkbox. A tick appears in the box.

Unicode Hex Input will now appear after the default keyboard in the keyboard menu. To activate the Unicode keyboard, select it. Typing Unicodes with the Alt key held down should now work.

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Le 16 oct. 08 à 13:18, IanB a écrit :

> "When I use RagTime”
> 
> I don’t know Ragtime…

I prefer Thelonious Monk 😉

> Typing Unicodes with the Alt key held down should now work.

now it is OK, thank you very much

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> “When I use RagTime”
> 
> I don’t know RagtimeŠ

Ragtime is an integrated word processing,  
spreadsheet. drawing, etc. application from  
Germany. It was first imported to the US in he  
mid 90’s but not a lot of effort was made to  
promote it and it was crushed by MS Office. I  
see that it still has a US distributer.

> **[オンカジplus](https://www.ragtime-online.com/)**

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/12 "2008-10-16T18:32:09Z")

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On Oct 16, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Jack Jennings wrote:

> > “When I use RagTime”
> > 
> > I don’t know RagtimeŠ
> 
> Ragtime is an integrated word processing, spreadsheet. drawing,  
> etc. application from Germany. It was first imported to the US in  
> he mid 90’s

In fact, I would say, a few years after the Mac was born, i.e. late 80s.

Regards  
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The current version is 6.0.2  
A new version 6.5 has been announced for the end of 2008  
I use RagTime for many years but I wonder that Ian remembers it  
jacques

Le 16 oct. 08 à 20:32, Alain Schremmer a écrit :

> On Oct 16, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Jack Jennings wrote:
> 
> > > “When I use RagTime”
> > > 
> > > I don’t know RagtimeŠ
> > 
> > Ragtime is an integrated word processing, spreadsheet. drawing,  
> > etc. application from Germany. It was first imported to the US in  
> > he mid 90’s
> 
> In fact, I would say, a few years after the Mac was born, i.e. late  
> 80s.

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Ah yes, but iWork does all this and more, yet only costs £70.

I’m also a big fan of Tables and Merlin2

Sorry for the OT! 🙂

On 16 Oct 2008, at 16:51, Jack Jennings [email@hidden](mailto:email@hidden) wrote:

> > “When I use RagTime”
> > 
> > I don’t know RagtimeŠ
> 
> Ragtime is an integrated word processing, spreadsheet. drawing, etc.  
> application from Germany. It was first imported to the US in he mid  
> 90’s but not a lot of effort was made to promote it and it was  
> crushed by MS Office. I see that it still has a US distributer. [http://www.ragtime-online.com/](http://www.ragtime-online.com/)
> 
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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/index-and-exponent/2949/15 "2008-10-16T22:21:07Z")

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I’d forgotten, but about ten years ago, I was given a Ragtime CD at a Mac Expo! I still have it (it’s version 4.0.1) and it should work on the G5 iMac. I’ll have a look at it tomorrow.

Thelonius Monk…the top jazzmen are great musicians, but my favourite music is the blues/rock of the late 60s-early 70s. There are some great clips on YouTube of Zeppelin, Wishbone Ash and Free playing live. Wonderful stuff.

Glad you got Unicode working. Few users know about it and because it’s such a painful, complex way of accessing special characters, fewer care. The OS and font programmers seem to love it, however!

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Le 17 oct. 08 à 00:21, IanB a écrit :

> Glad you got Unicode working. Few users know about it and because  
> it’s such a painful, complex way of accessing special characters,  
> fewer care. The OS and font programmers seem to love it, however!

The font palette of RagTime 6 is very convenient to work with Unicode  
(still more than those of MacOS X), and I use it often, but I did not  
know the way of typing characters by hex input

jacques

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