Here’s an informative and insightful look into one company’s
design/development process for their client’s huge 1000+ page site.
Despite the scope of this project there’s a lot of useful info that can
be distilled down for smaller responsive-driven projects, if you’re
interested in learning such things.
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I had been reading Ethan Marcotte’s Responsive Web Design and little
blog bits like this:
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Here’s an informative and insightful look into one company’s design/development process for their client’s huge 1000+ page site. Despite the scope of this project there’s a lot of useful info that can be distilled down for smaller responsive-driven projects, if you’re interested in learning such things.
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How’s Ethan’s book? Worth buying?
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I had been reading Ethan Marcotte’sResponsive Web Design and little
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Adaptive vs Responsive, What’s The Difference? | Ariel SalminenThanks for this new article.
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I love it, tore through it. I would buy anything he writes.
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Lol, I have to agree with Walter - it’s a pretty good read and refreshingly
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I love it, tore through it. I would buy anything he writes.
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…Just in the process of reading this book
Don’t you feel that because of the effect of preparing responsive sites they are appearing less designed and more akin to book layout design? This is great for reading content but an average client is usually pushing for more visual fiz bang kapow!
It’s going to be interesting as clients realise more and more viewers are reading their site’s on mobile devices.
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Lol, I have to agree with Walter - it’s a pretty good read and refreshingly
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Actually, I think the author is saying that our roots in print design
are what limit us to thinking about web design in the same terms.
The control which designers know in the print medium, and often desire in the web medium, is simply a function of the limitation of the printed page. We should embrace the fact that the web doesn’t have the same constraints, and design for this flexibility. But first, we must “accept the ebb and flow of things.”
John Allsopp, “A Dao of Web Design”
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…Just in the process of reading this book
Don’t you feel that because of the effect of preparing responsive sites they are appearing less designed and more akin to book layout design? This is great for reading content but an average client is usually pushing for more visual fiz bang kapow!
It’s going to be interesting as clients realise more and more viewers are reading their site’s on mobile devices.
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David Owen wrote:
It’s going to be interesting as clients realise more and more viewers are reading their site’s on mobile devices.
I’m finding myself in a similar position now as I recently signed-on to
code (not design) a ~150 page site and the client is relying heavily on
the mobile experience to help sell ad space as he intends to use an iPad
to pitch the site to potential advertisers so it’s critical that it
works well. The case study article provided useful insights, despite
that their project was a 1000 pages and mine only 150 (though not
exactly tiny, I suppose). It’s a Brave New World.
Yeah, it’s going to interesting alright, for them and us.
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I really recommend installing Xcode and using the iOS simulator as your preview window. Preview in Browser, then drag the little globe or favicon into the Safari browser running on the simulator. You can also preview how the site will respond when rotated, and if you’re saving the icon to the desktop and adding the correct meta tags, how it will look and act as an HTML App.
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David Owen wrote:
It’s going to be interesting as clients realise more and more viewers are reading their site’s on mobile devices.
I’m finding myself in a similar position now as I recently signed-on to code (not design) a ~150 page site and the client is relying heavily on the mobile experience to help sell ad space as he intends to use an iPad to pitch the site to potential advertisers so it’s critical that it works well. The case study article provided useful insights, despite that their project was a 1000 pages and mine only 150 (though not exactly tiny, I suppose). It’s a Brave New World.Yeah, it’s going to interesting alright, for them and us.
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Oh, the iOS Simulator and I are thick as thieves. That app has been
invaluable to me. Especially since I’m one of 4 people on the planet who
doesn’t own an iPad or iPhone.
Todd
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I really recommend installing Xcode and using the iOS simulator as
your preview window. Preview in Browser, then drag the little globe or
favicon into the Safari browser running on the simulator. You can also
preview how the site will respond when rotated, and if you’re saving
the icon to the desktop and adding the correct meta tags, how it will
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since I’m one of 4 people on the planet who doesn’t own an iPad or iPhone
I’m one of the other three then.
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since I’m one of 4 people on the planet who doesn’t own an iPad or iPhone
I’m one of the other three then.
Right-on, Heather!
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I also have the Android SDK/emulator installed since Android does have a
large market share, though the emulator is not nearly as nice (very
sluggish) as iOS.
Find it here http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
And a quick and simple “how-to” installation video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORW3HxrmLTY.
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I also have the Android SDK/emulator installed since Android does have a
large market share, though the emulator is not nearly as nice (very
sluggish) as iOS.Find it here http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
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[Laughs] Right? I thought the same thing. He does a good job though.
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He does a great job… I think I saw his video on setting up the ios
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Oh, well… 
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[Laughs] Right? I thought the same thing. He does a good job though.
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I think SP should hire him to do instructional FW vids.
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Who has SP hired to do instructional materials for their hobbyist base?
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I believe those Freeway Moments were contracted to Paul Dunning. The last manual was done by a third party company, although not nearly as nice as the one that was done for Freeway 3 or 2, both in-house efforts.
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