iPhone

Just thought I would ask if anyone (in the UK) has one yet and if they were happy with it.

I suppose like a lot of folk out there I am toying with the idea especially after dropping my Razr in a puddle and watching it being run over by a van. And yes it still works but a bit bent and also long in the tooth and misbehaving.

I primarily use it for business calls - not surfing, nor listening to music - so reliability is very high on the list. But it would be nice to have that other stuff as well.

So any thoughts?

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Sometime around 2/12/07 (at 19:40 -0500) DeltaDave said:

Just thought I would ask if anyone (in the UK) has one yet and if
they were happy with it.

I got one on the evening of the launch! :slight_smile: I queued up in the press
section and got photos of the start of the event, then joined the
regular line once the crush had died down.

I am absolutely, stupendously delighted. And I’m speaking as a
critical technology user, not as one of those Apple fan-boys. There’s
never been a phone like it. And I’ve been using some of the more
extreme phones around, including the Nokia 9500 and the T-Mobile Ameo.

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Thanks for your thoughts on that Keith.

I was hoping there might be more iPhone users here than that.

Maybe there will be after Xmas! Anybody else want to chip in.

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On 8 Dec 2007, at 11:45, DeltaDave wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts on that Keith.

I was hoping there might be more iPhone users here than that.

Maybe there will be after Xmas! Anybody else want to chip in.

My personal feeling is that the pricing is just a bit too high.
Factoring the cost of the phone in, you’re paying £50 a month for 18
months and getting 200 minutes and 200 texts.

If it was either a free phone on £35 a month or £269 for the phone and
£25 a month, I’d probably be there in a flash.

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Sometime around 8/12/07 (at 06:45 -0500) DeltaDave said:

I was hoping there might be more iPhone users here than that.

Maybe there will be after Xmas!

Quite possibly. I know I got into a bit of
trouble at home for just going ahead and getting
myself one so close to Christmas. :slight_smile: And I know
a number of people who will be receiving an
iPhone this Christmas after their partners took a
look at mine.

It isn’t cheap. But it isn’t just a phone - it is
far more than that. Here’s a quick, incomplete
list of what I like about it:

It doesn’t do GPS, but I’ve been finding the
built-in Google Maps utility incredibly useful
for helping me get places. (And it caches map
data for the display and immediate adjascent
areas so I’m not scuppered if I need to check
again when I’m on the Underground.)

It reads my dot-Mac account so I get email on the
go. It does this using IMAP so I still get my
email retrieved and archived on my laptop. So I
can get and respond to emails immediately and
still be able to manage them as normal on my Mac.
I also have it checking a different account
(using POP), one set up on one of my other
domains. It works an absolute treat.

The iPod aspect is great. This makes the
cover-flow UI idea make complete sense, whereas
on desktops with mouse control it is fun but
slightly forced. The only thing to note here is
that the headphone socket is recessed slightly,
and the size of the recess is a little smaller
than normal. The shank of most headphone plugs
will be too fat to fit, so if you want to use
other headphones you’ll either need to trim the
sides down or get an iPhone headphone adaptor.
That’s on my Christmas list, so I can use my
mondo-expensive Shure in-ear headphones.

The only thing that will make me give up is the
ability to make/take phone calls using the iPhone
headphones with the their built-in mic, a
discreet blip on one of the earpiece leads. But
that’s not a major problem.

When a call comes in and I’m listening to
something, the audio fades down quickly - it
doesn’t just cut out suddenly - before playing
the ring tone. I love the way nothing’s abrupt,
it is all as ‘polite’ as it is efficient.

I download episodes of The Mighty Boosh to watch
when I’m travelling to and from work. (Download
on my Mac, transcode to iPod video scale/format,
sync to the iPhone with iTunes.) The screen is
simply amazing. Totally watchable, more than any
pocket-sized device I’ve ever seen.

I take short notes on it in meetings; the typing
thing is surprisingly good, although not suited
to more than a few sentences at a time. At least,
not at my current level of practise. Great for
SMS texts, shortish emails, notes, etc.

I have a long list of classroom and lecture room
door access codes on it, so I don’t have to keep
fishing for the scrumpled printout that keeps
ending up in the wrong pocket.

The camera is only 2 megapixels, not a match for
many cameraphones today. But the shots look very
good on the iPhone’s screen. Beyond that I would
always want a proper digital SLR anyway. But I
know I’m a perfectionist when it comes to
photography. :slight_smile:

Safari works well. It does a new form of multiple
window browsing - not tabs, but pretty much the
same end result, in the abstract sense. Unlike
any other mobile-based browser I’ve tested,
Safari provides a smooth, usable experience.

It syncs with iCal, so I get my meetings and
classes listed, and iCal alarms will ping me in
my pocket even if I’m nowhere near my Mac. And I
can edit and create calendar events, and they’ll
be synced back to iCal when I next connect.

…So yes, it is expensive. But it is undeniably
FAR more than just a phone. The phone aspect is
great, and it is what other mobiles have tried to
be and failed, and more.

I paid £269 (inc VAT) for it, then picked the
basic £35 tarriff; 200 minutes, 200 texts per
month. Sure, I’m paying more for those minutes
than with some other contracts. But I get free
unlimited Internet access with that, both the
phone network (2.5G EDGE, slow but usable) and
wifi wherever The Cloud wifi is available. In
central London coffee bars and similar places
that’s a pretty good deal, but elsewhere The
Cloud is probably not so available.

I was paying about that much money for my
previous contract; a bit under £30 for the
calls/texts, plus £7.50 per month for 3GB worth
of data traffic for Internet use. I rarely make
200 minutes of calls or send 200 texts per month,
so I’m actually, in a very real sense, no worse
off than before, with what many people considered
to be a reasonable deal.

I’ve been using cutting-edge Windows Mobile
phones for the last couple of years, including
the 8GB, 640x480 display Ameo launched earlier
this year, and they’ve all been totally blown
away by this iPhone.

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Sometime around 8/12/07 (at 13:35 +0000) Keith Martin said:

I get free
unlimited Internet access with that, both the
phone network (2.5G EDGE, slow but usable) and
wifi wherever The Cloud wifi is available.

And of course the iPhone isn’t limited to that wifi source; that’s
just a nice deal that Apple negotiated. It can use any wifi source
that I can connect to in the normal manner. For example, at home it
connects using my wifi router. And the fact that I would consider
using it at home to check something when I don’t feel like flipping
open my MacBook Pro should say something, too… :slight_smile:

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I’m interested to see how (and when in '08) the 3G iPhone plays out
as there is concern about reduced talk-time on 3G. And who knows,
perhaps the price will drop even further by then.

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Sometime around 8/12/07 (at 10:01 -0600) Todd said:

I’m interested to see how (and when in '08) the 3G iPhone plays out
as there is concern about reduced talk-time on 3G. And who knows,
perhaps the price will drop even further by then.

Don’t count on a big price drop. More likely is an increase in
storage capacity. Look at the price/capacity changes that have
happened since the original iPod was launched - basically, you
might see a price cut, but it won’t be significant. Wait long
enough and you will see an increase in features and/or storage.

I don’t see 3G arriving in an iPhone soon as it really does kill
battery life. When low-power 3G chips become available in mass
quantities, yes. But the volume Apple needs is significant, and this
isn’t even available commercially in small quantities now, to my
knowledge.

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I don’t expect a drop like what happened a few months back but any price reduction is a good thing.

If the news reports I’ve been reading have even a shred of truth to them a 3G iPhone has been locked in for mid '08, FWIW. Jobs still isn’t satisfied with the battery life but apparently progress is being made. Who knows? Like everything, it’ll happen when it happens.

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On Dec 8, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Keith Martin wrote:

Don’t count on a big price drop. More likely is an increase in

storage capacity.

I don’t see 3G arriving in an iPhone soon as it really does kill

battery life. When low-power 3G chips become available in mass

quantities, yes. But the volume Apple needs is significant, and this

isn’t even available commercially in small quantities now, to my

knowledge.

Sometime around 8/12/07 (at 10:21 -0600) Todd said:

If the news reports I’ve been reading have even a shred of truth to
them a 3G iPhone has been locked in for mid '08, FWIW. Jobs still
isn’t satisfied with the battery life but apparently progress is
being made. Who knows?

Exactly. The speculation you see online isn’t worth the paper it is
printed on. (And yes, I know it isn’t printed at all… exactly my
point. :wink:
It may happen, it may not.

Sorry, I’m on a bit of an ‘absolute truth and accuracy’ kick right
now. Probably something to do with marking MA Publishing
dissertations.

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What’s really a kick about the 3G iPhone speculation and that the AT&T CEO “let the cat out of the bag,” is that “Some guy named Steve Jobs said the same thing back in September.”

(Credit to daringfireball.net for the quote and link.)


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Sometime around 9/12/07 (at 09:29 -0500) Joe Muscara said:

“Some guy named Steve Jobs said the same thing back in September.”

Ahh yes. I should have remembered that! Especially as I was in the
second row at the time… Doh! :slight_smile:

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I too queued on the Friday Night to get my iPhone at O2 in Colchester, Essex UK.

It is an amazing piece of equipment it has a couple of things that I would like changed, bluetooth has no data transfer which is frustrating and I miss sending multiple sms messages, other than that it is ‘spot on’ and a Mac Users dream, syncing everything from calendars and contacts to bookmarks and keychains, as well as my .mac account and my pop3 business account.

As Keith says the camera has no comparison to other phones but for quick snaps they look good enough on the iPhone screen, thats the reason the Canon is on the way for Christmas :wink:

£269 plus the £35 tariff 200 mins and 200 txts I paid the same £35 for 400 mins and 400 txt before but never used them and with the data connectivity ‘thrown in’ it seemed like a good price, 18 month contract didnt bother me…I have been with O2 since 1988 with the same telephone number so Im not going anywhere.

The must have in it all…£7.50 a month…insurance.

Luv it!


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Sometime around 10/12/07 (at 08:23 -0500) Daftbugga said:

The must have in it all…£7.50 a month…insurance.

Check your household insurance. In many cases
you’re already covered for mobile phones; paying
extra to your phone company may not be as
necessary as you think.

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Well now that Christmas has passed who else out there is the proud (or not so proud) owner of an iPhone.

Does it do everything it says on the tin?

I know you wont have had a chance to use it under mission critical conditions yet (except Keith and Daftbugga) but how is it going so far?

I am just about at the end of a contract with Orange so the time is right for me to make a move but I am looking for positives (and negatives) from the rest of you to help me make up my mind.

Unlike a lot of people for me it is primarily a business communication device so it has to be right.

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Sometime around 6/1/08 (at 09:37 -0500) DeltaDave said:

I know you wont have had a chance to use it under mission critical
conditions yet (except Keith and Daftbugga) but how is it going so
far?

It is one a giant leap for phone-kind.
There are other phones that have similar surface-level feature lists.
I’ve owned some, including the HTC Advantage and but it is the
interface and the feature integration that makes the iPhone so superb.

Unlike a lot of people for me it is primarily a business
communication device so it has to be right.

It will let you get on with communication without having to fiddle.
Check that you’re normally in an area that gets decent O2 reception.
If that’s not an issue, get one and enjoy it.

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On 6 Jan. 2008, 1:37 pm, DeltaDave wrote:

I know you wont have had a chance to use it under mission critical conditions yet (except Keith and Daftbugga) but how is it going so far?

Unlike a lot of people for me it is primarily a business communication device so it has to be right.

David

Dave

It is my critical business communication device as the Nokia 9500 Communicator and iBook have gone to make way for this.

Like thatkeith I totally agree that the interface and feature integration with my mac leaves me in awe of its capabilities. Silly as it sounds with everything that the ‘iPhone’ can do…it really is a great phone to use as well, finding contacts even making a dialled call is an experience…but hey thats Apple for you.

At home and in the office I use the BT Home Hub Wireless capability and it is as quick as the iBook if not faster, getting mails and surfing. Edge is slower yet still very acceptable.

Im my opinion it has a couple of ‘issues’ that I would luv to see solved with a quick firmware update one has already been addressed apparantly by a company called gearlive, altho I hear it may not happen:

http://www.gearlive.com/news/article/q407-iphone-113-qa-batch-one/

they have integrated sending multiple sms text messages, something on New Years Eve I found a pain, just wanted to send 20 Happy New Year messages to mates etc etc, had to type them all individually…which comes to the second ‘update’…a copy and paste option would be great!!!

Lastly for me ‘true’ bluetooth data compatability so I can send and receive files easily again (the 9500 was superb for that) I end up sending them via email to the person but if they dont have it on their phone they gotta wait till they are back in the office.

Other than those ‘little gripes’ awesome piece of history in my opinion.

If you can, get one and you’ll luv it.

Daftbugga (aka Rik)


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Sometime around 6/1/08 (at 13:57 -0500) Daftbugga said:

It is my critical business communication device as the Nokia 9500
Communicator and iBook have gone to make way for this.

I’ve had a 9500 Communicator, then a couple of different T-Mobile/HTC
high-end Windows Mobile devices, the kinds with 640x480 pixel
displays. Compared to the iPhone they’re all dinosaurs.

I agree with your issues with the iPhone, and also that those are
minor points. I’m hoping the iPhone SDK that’s supposed to be made
available this month will help fill in the small gaps in the feature
set.

I’m also hoping that someone will provide a way to view VR panoramas
on the iPhone. Ideally, this would be through extending the existing
QuickTime support or by adding Flash support, but any way that works
would be fine by me! If I could demonstrate interactive VR panoramas
on the iPhone it would be an utter dream device. As it is, I’m
contemplating resurrecting my clunky HTC Advantage (T-Mobile Ameo) to
use it purely for this task; I have a Java applet for it that handles
Java panorama files reasonably well.

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On Jan 6, 2008 8:57 PM, Keith Martin email@hidden wrote:

I agree with your issues with the iPhone, and also that those are
minor points. I’m hoping the iPhone SDK that’s supposed to be made
available this month will help fill in the small gaps in the feature
set.

February: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/devcenter/third_party_apps.php

I’d be surprised if it wasn’t somewhat locked down with Apple
restricting developers from having free reign of the platform.

– Finlay


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Sometime around 7/1/08 (at 00:19 +0000) Finlay Dobbie said:

February: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/devcenter/third_party_apps.php

I’d be surprised if it wasn’t somewhat locked down with Apple
restricting developers from having free reign of the platform.

Yep, misremembered I guess. I’m not expecting complete open access,
but I’m hoping it’ll be more than just a token gesture.

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