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… and missed the olympics opening ceremony because of this, actually I’m enjoying struggling, how perverse is that ? but I have given in so please give me some guidance. I’m still not sure whether I should be building a site like this with CSS, frames, tables, inflow, outflow, layers or a mixture of all of them ! Here’s the site (very early stages):

http://www.rogerburton.co.uk/crown/

I’m happy that all of the main elements centre themselves in the browser window (though I’m not sure I did it the correct way) but I can’t get the charming barmaid to stay in the centre … advice please. Regards Roger

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Hi Roger

Check your pasteboard off to the right that you have not left some layered object there.

The page appears with a horizontal scrollbar suggesting there is more content to the right.

billy.jpg is set at 50% from the left so it is poistioning itself at 50% from the whole page which appears to be about 1800 px wide.

David

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It’s the ‘container’ for the image that goes over to the right Dave, I obviously have the whole concept of this wrong, I’ve found something in the reference called “Creating Flexible layouts” which I’ll dig into - it still doesn’t help though with my basic confusion / lack of knowledge about when to use tables or CSS etc. I understand CSS is the current “way to go” but when working with the CSS box model I feel I lose all the wonderful ease of use and intuitiveness that I like about Freeway, however no gain without pain as they say. Experience is the answer, I’ll keep going. Thanks for taking the time and have a good weekend. Roger

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Do you mean this one

<div id="item2" class="f-x2" style="position:absolute; left:50%; top:174px; width:901px; z-index:1; overflow:visible">

If so why is the width of it 901? The pic is only 400!

David

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Hi Roger,

On a site like this, I would keep it simple and let Freeway worry about what to use.

Just make sure the Blue CSS button is on, and in this case, page alignment to centre, just place and resize the images as required, keeping your crown background image and that should be it. Freeway will do the rest quite comfortably. Just make sure your page size is is not too wide, so every visitor can see the whole page.

When you use HTML text, make sure the text can expand downwards a little if re-sized (leave HTML text boxes with clear space at the bottom for text to expand)

Regarding flexible layouts, its not always needed, Mac Users, yes will often re-size a browser window, where as the average Windows user, would not even understand the concept, as they browse full screen 100% of the time.

Understanding will come, with regular use of the programme.

On 8 Aug 2008, at 14:49, Roger Burton wrote:

I should be building a site like this with CSS, frames, tables, inflow, outflow, layers or a mixture of all of them ! Here’s the site (very early stages):

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It is true, you do lose some of the freedom’s of drag and dropping in Freeway because of the “box-model” and David is right you don’t always need to do it this way. I just learned how to build a site in this format about 4-5 months ago and it becomes more of a thinking man’s project.

But knowing how to do it isn’t an over-night deal and I’ve gone back into old-projects and saw errors I made and things that weren’t done properly.

Keep going Roger, you’ll get it.

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Thanks chaps, Delta Dave, how did you add that image in your post please? and Dave Owen (we seem to be chatting a lot these days) and Dan thanks also, your comments were encouraging and kind of clarified my thinking. Fway is excellent and wouldn’t be as good if it were totally easy so yes I will try and learn to be a bit more patient and carry on reading the reference. Good of you all to take the time … Roger

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Hi Roger

The ‘image’ that you refer to is just some copied code from your website.

If you type 4 spaces then paste your code it will appear intact and not be mangled by the Web Forum.

Try it and see.

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Very clever - I think, I guess I won’t know 'til it’s up there.

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Well I did something wrong, there’s something over on the right there …

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Roger,

I love what you are doing with your site. Is there an action or something
you are using for the big middle section that flips through the actions? It
looks great! Keep up the good work.

Doty

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That’s very nice of you Doty … I like this idea for something like a pub where you can give the visitor “an impression” of the place, it’s still very much 'under construction" but, as ever, Freeway has an action and a tutorial. You can find all the instructions you need here:

http://www.softpress.com/kb/article.php?id=761

and it must be easy 'cause even I managed to do it.

have fun Roger

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Hi Roger

I am getting a bit of the Crown graphic at the back of the rotating pics.

Have you got your bottom layer set to combine with the background?

I also think your pics change a tad too quickly.

David

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Yes Dave - I noticed that and I’ve tried to get rid of the oddity … the bottom image layer is the one with the ‘actions cog’ on it and if I turn off ‘Combine graphics’ in ‘inspector’ the action stops working (and it doesn’t solve the problem). I’m not even sure what is actually happening, ie I can see the problem but don’t know what’s causing it, I didn’t really think you could do much to a ‘background’ image, obviously you can ! ? any advice very welcome … Regards Roger

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The problem is that the slideshow images are set to a relational size,
when you increase the width of the window they move with the right
side while the background image doesn’t. If you make the page as wide
as it was in Freeway then it all lines up perfectly.

You could either try, making the background image centered too, or
giving the items on the page a px value instead of a percentage.

Hope this helps.

Joe

On 11 Aug 2008, at 07:48, Roger Burton wrote:

Yes Dave - I noticed that and I’ve tried to get rid of the
oddity … the bottom image layer is the one with the ‘actions cog’
on it and if I turn off ‘Combine graphics’ in ‘inspector’ the action
stops working (and it doesn’t solve the problem). I’m not even sure
what is actually happening, ie I can see the problem but don’t know
what’s causing it, I didn’t really think you could do much to a
‘background’ image, obviously you can ! ? any advice very
welcome … Regards Roger

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Thank you Joe, your reply made me realise what was happening, I changed the images to pngs and that solved it, is that an acceptable solution ? Roger

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Yep, that’ll work too, they are now fully transparent.

On 11 Aug 2008, at 09:01, Roger Burton wrote:

Thank you Joe, your reply made me realise what was happening, I
changed the images to pngs and that solved it, is that an acceptable
solution ? Roger

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