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Hello everyone

heres one which has been discussed but I am still trying to find the best solution… All my images are jpeg,so I have been importing only jpegs. Should I reformat the images for jpegs to? what. I do not have originals so I am left to only work with jpegs…I would like to get the best possible quality
Thanks for all your help
C

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One questions to ask here is probably

How big are the files compared to the size you want to show them?

This will probably determine how you proceed

Remember jpeg in and jpeg out means increased degradation of quality (2 compressions and associated artefacts)

If you have sufficiently large/good quality files then resize and save as tiffs or psds and turn up the output quality in FW - if they are smaller files then import as pass throughs and FW wont degrade them any more

But how you proceed should be determined by your starting quality and how you want to use them.

David

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How are ya Dave! A good day for America!

Ok most of the images are

Pixel dimensions 1556 x 1164
size 16 x 12 inches
resolution 96

please advise as to the best way of formatting

Thanks Dave!

Carla

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What size do you want them to appear on your page?

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Dave

here is the website I am working on
The images on this page shows the size of images
http://lelandneff.com/equestrianpaint.html

and I used a png format for this homepage one, which works fine on my screen

http://lelandneff.com/index.html

Thanks
C

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Quick question - how are you putting these onto the page at the moment?

The reason that I ask is because (and try this for yourself) if I drag 1 of your images off the browser page to the desktop then I get the picture with quite a lot of white border around it. Particularly noticeable with the 2nd pic down on the LH of the 4 jockeys on different horses

Your pics are also being named things like

mollyasheatthehab.jpeg.jpg

Note .jpeg and .jpg which may upset some systems/browsers.

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Your pics are also being named things like

mollyasheatthehab.jpeg.jpg

Note .jpeg and .jpg which may upset some systems/browsers.

Ignore that last bit that was me saving them to the desktop that did that

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Dave
I import jpg into graphic boxes and then scale & pad each image

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Dave, set your Finder view preferences to always show file extensions and you won’t have that problem.

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Hey there Walter!

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Hi
If they are already sized exactly to what you want on the page then you can
import them as pass through images - which means that no further degradation
of compression is applied by Freeway.

But if you need to resize or crop or apply any change to them in Freeway
then they cannot be pass through and they get jpegged again. You have a
Freeway-wide jpeg compression setting in preferences and can adjust each
individual image via inspector pallet.

If you want to edit them outside Freeway then save the edited version as
tiff, PSD and let freeway use those to make its own jpegs - OR save a jpeg
copy of the psd and import as pass through.

I generally feel that a downsized photo can be improved with a little
sharpening.

Freeway uses the dpi value - so its simpler and less confusing to save at 72
dpi.

There’s a lot more flexibility in letting Freeway deal with image output -
but if something is exactly wanted just so and you feel you have tools to
get everything better via image ready or Photoshop or whatever then that’s
also a workflow that some here use.

hope this helps

regards
Brian

Carla said recently:

Hello everyone

heres one which has been discussed but I am still trying to find the best
solution… All my images are jpeg,so I have been importing only jpegs. Should
I reformat the images for jpegs to? what. I do not have originals so I am left
to only work with jpegs…I would like to get the best possible quality
Thanks for all your help
C

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Thanks for that tip Walter.

Carla it is the padding that is adding extra to your images - making the file sizes slightly larger than they need to be - probably not much of a concern in the big scheme of things but if you do the scale and then fit box to graphic you wont get that extra in there.

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And Brian got in there before me with a better explanation…

David

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Dave

sorry I misunderstand

what extra are you speaking about? The sizes are exactly what I want them to be…

I am wondering about the best format for quality
Thx
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(try this for yourself) if I drag 1 of your images off the browser page to the desktop then I get the picture with quite a lot of white border around it

Drag the picture of the 4 jockeys off the page so it copies to the desktop and then open it in Pshop or whatever graphic app you use and you will see what I mean.

That particular image is 679k - when the white is cropped off it it takes it down to 420k - multiply that by a lot of images and you are using a lot more bandwith than you need to and your pages will load faster

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thx
although I have never done a pass through import… I will look that up as to how to manage that

Thanks ever so

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Pass through relies on the image being imported being the right size for use on the page,

Draw your graphic box as normal - with it selected do Apple-E (File>Import) in the subsequent dialogue box navigate to the file you want to import, select it and in the bottom left of the box you will see 3 check boxes

Pass-through

Show previews and

Ignore resolution

If you tick the pass-through box then click Open (bottom right) FW will import the image and not alter it in any way on output. No further compression etc.

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I found the pass through option but when I imported image on my slave image pile… I lost the slave image pile & could not see list in actions… of course I undid…
so why is this?

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David

I see what you mean about the white around the images but I did do that in PS. It must have happened in FW when I scaled and padded? I assume this as all my images are flush jpgs with no white around them

what do you suggest?

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Just adding a note:
If you import normally into image boxes in Freeway and get the layout as you
like it - then note the dimensions of the image - you can make a best copy
outside Freeway to those dimensions and import it as pass through.

This is the sort of thing I’d do if it really mattered.

It might also work just to up the quality by using better jpg setting and
maybe using actions to sharpen and maybe tweak other parameters.

If you tried this with one image you could see if the difference was in fact
worth the work.

hope this helps

regards
Brian

Brian Steere said recently:

Hi
If they are already sized exactly to what you want on the page then you can
import them as pass through images - which means that no further degradation
of compression is applied by Freeway.

But if you need to resize or crop or apply any change to them in Freeway
then they cannot be pass through and they get jpegged again. You have a
Freeway-wide jpeg compression setting in preferences and can adjust each
individual image via inspector pallet.

If you want to edit them outside Freeway then save the edited version as
tiff, PSD and let freeway use those to make its own jpegs - OR save a jpeg
copy of the psd and import as pass through.

I generally feel that a downsized photo can be improved with a little
sharpening.

Freeway uses the dpi value - so its simpler and less confusing to save at 72
dpi.

There’s a lot more flexibility in letting Freeway deal with image output -
but if something is exactly wanted just so and you feel you have tools to
get everything better via image ready or Photoshop or whatever then that’s
also a workflow that some here use.

hope this helps

regards
Brian

Carla said recently:

Hello everyone

heres one which has been discussed but I am still trying to find the best
solution… All my images are jpeg,so I have been importing only jpegs. Should
I reformat the images for jpegs to? what. I do not have originals so I am
left
to only work with jpegs…I would like to get the best possible quality
Thanks for all your help
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