# Let me simplify this
**URL:** https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086
**Category:** Freeway
**Created:** [July 25, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086 "2013-07-25T02:52:38Z")
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### Author:  [@John\_Cooper1](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/John_Cooper1)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/1 "2013-07-25T02:52:38Z")
The page and window backgrounds are fine—the page color goes all the way down to the bottom of the window.
When I add a HTNL text box nothing changes.
But as soon as I add a certain amount of text to the box—not overflowing—the page background shortens and does not reach the bottom of the window.
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### Author:  [@David\_McCallum](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/David_McCallum)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/2 "2013-07-25T18:06:09Z")
I am assuming that this relates to your other thread
> Overflow text/RPL/Page background
The only real way you are going to get a sensible diagnosis of this is if we can see a live online example with a breakdown of what we should be seeing and not.
David
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### Author:  [@John\_Cooper1](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/John_Cooper1)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/3 "2013-07-25T18:07:12Z")
Okay Dave, thanks. Will provide.
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### Author:  [@David\_McCallum](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/David_McCallum)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/4 "2013-07-25T18:07:58Z")
> The only real way you are going to get a sensible diagnosis of this is if we can see a live online example with a breakdown of what we should be seeing and not.
And what version of FW you are using - but we can often work that out from the underlying code if we can see it.
D
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### Author:  [@John\_Cooper1](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/John_Cooper1)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/5 "2013-07-27T02:33:57Z")
Okay here goes:
Using Freeway 6.0 and selecting different page and window backgrounds. The problem is that applying RPL shortens the page background. There is a footer pinned to the bottom of the window at 0px.
On this page the is NO RPL and everything looks fine at the bottom:
[http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/no-rpl.html](http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/no-rpl.html)
On this page RPL is applied and the page BG shortens at the bottom:
[http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-1.html](http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-1.html)
By way of testing, this page is identical with many of the items removed and the page BG is okay again:
[http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-2.html](http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-2.html)
But when I add just a couple of item, the BG is thrown off again a little at the bottom:
[http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-3.html](http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-3.html)
What’s happening? I think I have uploaded long pages on other sites with this problem, such as here:
[http://www.valleyforgepizza.com/testimonials.html](http://www.valleyforgepizza.com/testimonials.html)
Many thanks.
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### Author:  [@Joe2](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/Joe2)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2013, 6:30am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/6 "2013-07-27T06:30:29Z")
Hi John,
Try applying the Auto Clearfix Action to the page and checking the option “Apply to all unfloated elements”. This fix will be included in the RPL Action by default so any sites you make in the future won’t need to go through the same process.
Hope this helps,
Joe
On 27 Jul 2013, at 03:33, John Cooper [email@hidden](mailto:email@hidden) wrote:
> Okay here goes:
>
> Using Freeway 6.0 and selecting different page and window backgrounds. The problem is that applying RPL shortens the page background. There is a footer pinned to the bottom of the window at 0px.
>
> On this page the is NO RPL and everything looks fine at the bottom:
> [http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/no-rpl.html](http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/no-rpl.html)
>
> On this page RPL is applied and the page BG shortens at the bottom:
> [http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-1.html](http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-1.html)
>
> By way of testing, this page is identical with many of the items removed and the page BG is okay again:
> [http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-2.html](http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-2.html)
>
> But when I add just a couple of item, the BG is thrown off again a little at the bottom:
> [http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-3.html](http://www.bermudasupply.com/masontest/rpl-3.html)
>
> What’s happening? I think I have uploaded long pages on other sites with this problem, such as here:
> [http://www.valleyforgepizza.com/testimonials.html](http://www.valleyforgepizza.com/testimonials.html)
>
> Many thanks.
>
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### Author:  [@Noel\_Sergeant](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/Noel_Sergeant)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2013, 8:30am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/7 "2013-07-27T08:30:54Z")
Can’t help you about the footer I’m afraid but should just say that the sandstone background image on your valley forge site is over 500kb and takes an age to load - needs to be a fraction of this.
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### Author:  [@John\_Cooper1](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/John_Cooper1)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/8 "2013-07-27T14:03:04Z")
Sorry, Joe, the Clearfix Action didn’t cure the problem.
[Thanks, Noel, for the tip about the BG size]
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### Author:  [@John\_Cooper1](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/John_Cooper1)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/let-me-simplify-this/18086/9 "2013-08-04T03:04:13Z")
Tentatively: I think the problem is solved by having the Master at least as long as the longest page.
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