Lost website file: rebuild how?

The file in witch my site was build went into the litter bin that was emptied in save mode. So no recovery possible there

Means I have to rebuild the site of 136 pages asap. Now I imported the HTML files that are stored on the server and wonder if this is the kleverest thing to do. With importing the HTML files, freeway creates the pages with the original url and imports the meta-tags as well. This saves time and avoids mistakes.

However the imported HTML file create problems with the lay-out.

Please advice about the best way to rebuild the whole site.


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Johan,

If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it is BACKUP, BACKUP, and BACKUP. Yes, I did learn it the hard way (have you ever accidentally erased all the files off of your server?). Time Machine is awesome, and hard drives are cheap compared to having to rebuild stuff.

Now, you might be able to rescue the deleted file. First, stop using your computer. Any files you save might overwrite the deleted file. Go and download the free trial of MacKeeper here: http://mackeeper.zeobit.com. It has a file rescue utility.

If that doesn’t work, try this: http://www.softpress.com/kb/questions/40/Fast+Way+to+Recreate+a+Website


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thx but no backup this time and rescue of deleted files I tryed but with no desired results.

So only way is rebuilding but in the best and fastest way.

Any other idea how that can be don?


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So only way is rebuilding but in the best and fastest way.

This seems like painful way, but is best for teaching yourself to backup.
You will not do it again, believe me.

Besides, you have built it once already, this should go faster second time
and be very familiar :slight_smile:

Time machine works well for me!


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Thanx for rubbing in what i already knew guys

The thing was that was that i asked for idears for a fast rebuild and is my siggestion to import HTML the right way but I guess you all did it from scratch


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Importing HTML will give you a headache, and heartache, and is generally regarded to be a waste of time. That is why we recommend that you follow the KB article (which I wrote, many years ago) as it is still the best way to duplicate a site in Freeway. Remember – Freeway does not work in HTML at all. Its native file format is unique to it, and is a closed, binary file. It writes very nice HTML and CSS, and optimizes images and organizes JavaScripts and whatnot into a working site. But give it some HTML to work with, and it will sputter and cough and finally admit that it has no idea what you are talking about.

I liken it to Rain Man. Drop the box of toothpicks (ask it to generate HTML etc.) and you get a very precise answer in record time (a finished site). Ask it how much something costs (import some HTML) and you get “About $100.” Every. Damned. Time.

Walter

On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Johan wrote:

Thanx for rubbing in what i already knew guys

The thing was that was that i asked for idears for a fast rebuild and is my siggestion to import HTML the right way but I guess you all did it from scratch


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At 14:38 -0500 21/2/13, Caleb Grove wrote:

Now, you might be able to rescue the deleted file. First, stop
using your computer. Any files you save might overwrite the deleted
file. Go and download the free trial of MacKeeper here:
http://mackeeper.zeobit.com. It has a file rescue utility.

Many in the Mac world describe MacKeeper as “bordering on malware”.
They say it doesn’t do anything special and does some things that can
wreck your system. It’s very difficult to remove. I’ve never
installed it, but I have found it hitching a ride with something I
did want.

I can provide references to the other mailing lists if required.

David


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Hi Johan,
Assuming you don’t need to rebuild the entire site straight away I’d suggest creating a new master page in Freeway based on your existing design and use this to recreate the pages that you need to update right away. You can easily link to the existing HTML pages on your site and eventually you’ll have a freeway document that contains most of the site.

Alternatively chop the HTML pages you have up and insert the existing content into a CMS and maintain it from there.
Regards,
Tim.

On 21 Feb 2013, at 19:18, Johan wrote:

Please advice about the best way to rebuild the whole site.


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Hi Tim, thanks for the input

Lukely I have a secound site slightly different from eachother with slightly different URL’s, page titles and meta tages and les product pages.

I am ussing that file to re-create my lost site file.
In that copyed file I created new masters with new header and footer and use these masters on each page.
I copy the "page title’ used in the file from the online ‘page source code’ and copy the ‘url’ used in the site file from the online version’s url bar. Keeping the excact URL is important for finding the pages in google.

For the extra pages I create a new page and use the ‘page title’ and URL from the online version
Note here that it’s very important to keep the same folder structure as used in the orriginal file otherwise the URL’s are still incorrect.
For the extra pages I use the layout from the already existing pages and just import the new picktures and new text. As a guideline I use the online version.

Now for inserting the orriginal meta tages I have not found the right work arround yet, but I figure that this all has to be don manually as well.

Any suggestions are welcome


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On 21 Feb 2013, 9:40 pm, waltd wrote:

Importing HTML will give you a headache, and heartache, and is generally regarded to be a waste of time. That is why we recommend that you follow the KB article (which I wrote, many years ago) as it is still the best way to duplicate a site in Freeway. Remember – Freeway does not work in HTML at all. Its native file format is unique to it, and is a closed, binary file. It writes very nice HTML and CSS, and optimizes images and organizes JavaScripts and whatnot into a working site. But give it some HTML to work with, and it will sputter and cough and finally admit that it has no idea what you are talking about.

I liken it to Rain Man. Drop the box of toothpicks (ask it to generate HTML etc.) and you get a very precise answer in record time (a finished site). Ask it how much something costs (import some HTML) and you get “About $100.” Every. Damned. Time.

Walter

On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Johan wrote:

Thanx for rubbing in what i already knew guys

The thing was that was that i asked for idears for a fast rebuild and is my siggestion to import HTML the right way but I guess you all did it from scratch

Hi waltd,

Thanks for your input. I figured out that importing the HTML file masses things up. At first it looks you will come a long way but text blocks start behaving out of control.

I am re-building in the way described in my other posting here

any suggestions are welcome


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I have a similar issue to Johan, though I am not having to rebuild from scratch. I saved versions of my site, built in Freeway, but not the several most recent, and my hard drive died. So I will have to possibly reconstruct the updated versions.

I did upload all the files from my web host.

WaltD, youmention a “KB article” that has info-- how does one access that?

Thanks


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I think this is the one to which Walter is referring

http://www.softpress.com/kb/questions/40/Fast+Way+to+Recreate+a+Website


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I know nothing about this, but are you able to import html into dreamweaver at all? If that is possible, then could those pages be then imported into freeway? Can freeway open DW files?


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No.


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Boy, am I glad I use TimeMachine since it’s introduction in 2007. Other than that, keeping the FW files in my Dropbox folder doesn’t hurt ether :slight_smile:


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Dreamweaver can edit HTML, Freeway files are not HTML, and they contain no HTML (with the possible exception of anything you may have typed into a Markup dialog). DW can be a part of a Freeway workflow (as can any decent programmer’s text editor), as long as you understand that Freeway is the generator, not an editor. You can create sketches in Freeway, then edit them liberally in an editor after that. But it’s not a round-trip, more is that possible.

Walter

On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:35 AM, Noel Sergeant wrote:

I know nothing about this, but are you able to import html into dreamweaver at all? If that is possible, then could those pages be then imported into freeway? Can freeway open DW files?


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Wow, that’s an odd typo/homonym/lack of coffee. Substitute “nor” for “more”.

Walter

On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

more is that possible.


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Time Machine is not that reliable. I now have a issue in which TM decided to stop backing up my site folder, including several hundred iTunes Music purchased since Jan.

I needed to rebuild my FW site after a HD crash but TM last backup file was dated Jan, and when I opened it, sure enough it was my site back in Jan. It’s not FW fault but TM.

I can’t rely on TM again for trouble free backup. I think I’ll jus drag the entire Home folder on an external drive once in awhile or set a reminder to do so as precaution.

Time Machine still recovered about 90% of my Mac after the new HD replacement. So it saved me a lot of time and returned almost all of my files. So it wasn’t a total lost, but it’s not very reliable for 100% recovery.


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Every single day I drag my Freeway folder onto two separate external hard drives. And occasionally I’ll also back it up to a 16GB flash drive. It takes less than a minute, and I don’t worry at all about HD crashes.


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On 9 Mar 2014, 7:57 am, Jim Feeney wrote:

Every single day I drag my Freeway folder onto two separate external hard drives. And occasionally I’ll also back it up to a 16GB flash drive. It takes less than a minute, and I don’t worry at all about HD crashes.

That’s a good regimen that I will plan to start doing once I rebuilt this one particular site. Good idea with the flash drive. 32GB are cheap nowadays and I need just 20GB to back up my site folder.


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