Measurements vs. Dimensions

What is the essential difference between the Measurements and. Dimensions panes of the inspector.

Specifcally:

  1. as it relates to having a minimum page height of 100%

  2. as it relates to Master pages—it doesn’t seem possible to control all page height to 100% from a master page.


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I assume that you are after a specific page-construction, so an answer is pretty tricky.

Let me say it that way:

Dimension:

Absolute values for width and height (200px 400px).

Measurements

Usually relative, so neither a width nor height defined or if, the values are percentage (25% no height).

Measurements only make sense if you place items relative (inflow or box-in-box), while dimensions are usually used by placing items absolute (drop and drag). Relative positioned items can’t be dragged.

The “page-height” is Freeway specific - cause a page basically doesn’t have a real canvas (as we are used to). If it has - you have to define it. The magic is a random item (called #PageDiv).

Just as a start of the discussion - be more specific of your desired result.

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Okay—first question would be:

I have an Inline layout with Page Dimensions set to 100% page height and 100% minimum page height.

In this case, does it matter what my page SIZE is in the Measurements panel?


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No it doesn’t cause the height is steered by its content - that’s the real value of inline-design (at least to me).

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Understood about page SIZE but does that only apply to height? If so why does page WIDTH is a have an effect?


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In my world, neither width and height (Freeway’s workspace canvas spoken) really matters. I set the page-width in Freeway to 1823px (never do this in drop and drag mode) in the “measurements” and the height to something.

So I simulate the “browserwindow-width” of a medium sized monitor (21"). All placed items are in percentage values width and flexible heights).

Doing this, “dimensions” are greyed out in the inspector which will mean, that the initial “#PageDiv” doesn’t have the width and height properties declared and can therefor grow with its content.

All the rest is part of my concept “Box-in-Box-Model FreewayPro”, developed, screencasted and shared in “The Lounge” for some bucks.

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… and after reviewing the above (and head scratching how to best explain - gosh) I came up to the following:

MEASUREMENTS:

Are describing the situation within your Freeway-doc and are responsible for the WYSIWYG experience. This is the first choice in absolute positioned layouts.

DIMENSIONS

Is the truth in the browser - or the properties finally executed and manifested in the source code.

In absolute positioned layouts measurements and dimensions are (mostly) the same values while in a relative layout measurements are turned into other values (mostly) or are even not declared.

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Thanks Thomas. One other difference is that one includes any padding and the other doesn’t.


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Both have padding and margin fields/pull down menus, but the Dimensions pane offers an option to customize the left, right, top and bottom sides. I find this very handy.


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Right, I meant the value in the Dimension pane is less any padding, whereas the value in the Measurement pane is greater by the amount of the padding.


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Ahhh, yes…understood. Thanks for the clarification.


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On 27 May 2014, 5:07 pm, John Cooper wrote:

Right, I meant the value in the Dimension pane is less any padding, whereas the value in the Measurement pane is greater by the amount of the padding.

This is called box-sizing and means:

In the Freeway surrounding, box-width + padding + border requires more space and is therefor added.

In the dimension (traditional box-model don’t mix with Freeway’s box-in-box model) the width of this box is reduced by padding and border) so width - padding - (border).

So Freeway has to do a lot of compromises (display and publishing).

If you once stumble upon box-sizing: border-box you theoretically know now what and why it is:

http://www.kimmich-digitalmedia.com/articles/box-sizing-border-box

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Thanks for posting the above info and your link, Thomas. I use box-sizing, and it’s always good to understand what’s going on under the hood/in the background.


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