Hello, i need help. I am creating my and customers homepages with freewaypro and now i want to go dynamic. But i do not know how to bring my database and the script into freewaypro directly.
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These are a bit out of date but will still work for you and will show you some methods for using mysql and php with FW.
http://easibase.com/freeway/phpmysql.php
HTH
On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Peter Kotz wrote:
Hello, i need help. I am creating my and customers homepages with freewaypro and now i want to go dynamic. But i do not know how to bring my database and the script into freewaypro directly.
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Thanks for reply,
my software dev says not only a bit out of date. Ok he do not like freeway pro … is there another way to do it … what i want to do is an e-magazin www.coop-green.de and i want to hold the design in the hand. this e-magzin will be filled by customer sides like www.stanglmeier-bau.de and this and a lot of another sides should be change to an dynamic side. Only with freeway we can work very quick in design and now i hope to bring in mysql in our design and not the other way.
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Hi,
If your software developer can state that it is ‘not only a bit out of date’ then what is it he wants to know? Did you not ask on a way to use MySQL and PHP with Freeway?
Not liking Freeway is one thing but not wanting to know the answer of how to do what you want to do is another.
On Aug 25, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Peter Kotz wrote:
Thanks for reply,
my software dev says not only a bit out of date. Ok he do not like freeway pro … is there another way to do it … what i want to do is an e-magazin www.coop-green.de and i want to hold the design in the hand. this e-magzin will be filled by customer sides like www.stanglmeier-bau.de and this and a lot of another sides should be change to an dynamic side. Only with freeway we can work very quick in design and now i hope to bring in mysql in our design and not the other way.
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The answer to this depends on what you mean by using M&P “with” FW. If you want to get some (little, occasional) dynamic bits into a Freeway page, you can do that directly in Freeway, using the various markup items and page markup slots (or Actions). But it’s often much better to have the HTML part of your site be a static “dumb” template, into which your well-factored code pours the dynamic bits and renders the result. The point here is to keep from making what’s known in the trade as “spaghetti” code – where the template contains logic and database connection code. That way lies an unmaintainable mess.
What do you want to do, exactly?
Walter
On Aug 25, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Mike B wrote:
These are a bit out of date but will still work for you and will show you some methods for using mysql and php with FW.
Easibase: PHP/MySQL With FreewayHTH
On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Peter Kotz wrote:
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Thanks walter,
at first time i want to create, i call it customer sides like: www.stanglmeier-bau.de. This sides are unique design and connected to the own database with an newsletter option. This sides and the database will be filled from the customer himself by an own editor in the side. This side will be paste and copy and only the design changed to the cd of the new customer. This copy for a new customer should be done by the designer.
The second point what to do is to synchronize the customer side with the e-magazin www.coop-green.de, the data fields in the coop-green are the same like the data fields in the customer side.
Some software dev recommend typo3 or drupal to to this. I do not like this way, because the editing of the articles on the customer sides and the coop-green should be wysiwyg. Some customers which are working with typo3 told me, that the editing is extremly complicated. A typo3-developer told me that the way to work with is, to create a template and the typo3 brings the template in his html.
But no software dev like the code from freeway pro. They all say it is no structure in it. Maybe i am only a designer and my design must go dynamic. I do not know what way?
Peter
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I’ll try to have a look at this on the weekend. Generally speaking, the people who recommend Drupal or Typo have a vested interest in making you dependent on their services. That’s always been my experience, anyway. I’ve been working on a perpetually-almost-done CMS called Inlay for the past year +, and it might suit your needs in part, although it may be too simple for what you’ve described below. The key benefit of it is that your own HTML pages (Freeway-created or otherwise) become the templates, with little or no modification, and no splitting up into multiple “partial” files.
Walter
On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:13 AM, Peter Kotz wrote:
Thanks walter,
at first time i want to create, i call it customer sides like: www.stanglmeier-bau.de. This sides are unique design and connected to the own database with an newsletter option. This sides and the database will be filled from the customer himself by an own editor in the side. This side will be paste and copy and only the design changed to the cd of the new customer. This copy for a new customer should be done by the designer.The second point what to do is to synchronize the customer side with the e-magazin www.coop-green.de, the data fields in the coop-green are the same like the data fields in the customer side.
Some software dev recommend typo3 or drupal to to this. I do not like this way, because the editing of the articles on the customer sides and the coop-green should be wysiwyg. Some customers which are working with typo3 told me, that the editing is extremly complicated. A typo3-developer told me that the way to work with is, to create a template and the typo3 brings the template in his html.
But no software dev like the code from freeway pro. They all say it is no structure in it. Maybe i am only a designer and my design must go dynamic. I do not know what way?
Peter
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Hello Walter, i see your own web side walter davis studio … Give me liberty and the good service side will be like the coop+green in some part … it will be fine if you can have a look on the example: www.stanglmeier-bau.de … all is handmade without code and in the future it should be more like: www.stanglmeier-bau.de/einloggen.html and the great mother of all should be: www.coop-green.de
Meanwhile i discuss with my software dev, but i understand … to less and i try to translate:
-Wenn Du im Freeway, Eingabefelder so bearbeiten kannst, dass diese Felder mittels “POST-Methode” Werte für Variablen in Skripten setzen, kannst Du schon mal Input-Felder für die DB erstellen, z.B. für die Registrierung neuer Benutzer.
Can i edit in freeway an input field to use the “post-methods” to set values/results for variables?
-Wenn Du an beliebigen Stellen (z.B. im Textfeld eines Paragraphen) kleine Skripte einfügen kannst, steht auch dem Output nichts im Wege.
Can i set in freeway at “any place” (maybe in a textfield of a paragraph) a small script?
I think, i am going to shoot this man!!! He refuses, shaking his head to deal with freeway.
Thanks a lot Peter
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On Aug 27, 2014, at 6:16 AM, Peter Kotz wrote:
Hello Walter, i see your own web side walter davis studio … Give me liberty and the good service side will be like the coop+green in some part … it will be fine if you can have a look on the example: www.stanglmeier-bau.de … all is handmade without code and in the future it should be more like: www.stanglmeier-bau.de/einloggen.html and the great mother of all should be: www.coop-green.de
Meanwhile i discuss with my software dev, but i understand … to less and i try to translate:
-Wenn Du im Freeway, Eingabefelder so bearbeiten kannst, dass diese Felder mittels “POST-Methode” Werte für Variablen in Skripten setzen, kannst Du schon mal Input-Felder für die DB erstellen, z.B. für die Registrierung neuer Benutzer.
Can i edit in freeway an input field to use the “post-methods” to set values/results for variables?
Absolutely. Freeway is a completely flexible tool, and can do almost anything. Sometimes too much understanding of the HTML and PHP can blind you to the obvious, also Freeway tends to err on the side of designers when it comes to naming things – it skips the technical and correct name in favor of the one that’s familiar from Desktop Publishing.
-Wenn Du an beliebigen Stellen (z.B. im Textfeld eines Paragraphen) kleine Skripte einfügen kannst, steht auch dem Output nichts im Wege.
Can i set in freeway at “any place” (maybe in a textfield of a paragraph) a small script?
Sure. That’s done using the Insert / Markup Item menu command, or my CrowBar Action for more technical results.
I think, i am going to shoot this man!!! He refuses, shaking his head to deal with freeway.
Learning to use Freeway and write Actions was my first adventure in learning to program. I don’t use Freeway that much any more, I use Rails and Ruby and a text editor for most things I do. I stick with this community out of friendship and thankfulness to the people who helped me on the way up. I would not have the career I do today if it were not for the FreewayTalk community and their tireless patience with me in the early days.
Many programmers have this elitist view of the world – that their way is the only true way. And that’s sad, because we all have something to give one another.
I was a presenterat the Softpress booth at MacWorld in New York and San Francisco for several years. (I also designed their booths!) One of my favorite games to play was to find the person in my audience who was standing with their arms crossed (perhaps with a shaved head or too much hardware poking through their face) and show them the following demo. As quick as I could, I would sketch out a real-looking page on screen. Press preview in browser, and then view source. Stunned, slack-jawed expressions. Then I would change the page to use tables for layout, then back to layers. View source all the way through. More silence and awe. Then I would do some patter about how the client just walked in, and wanted the font to change in all the graphics in the site. And change that (since it was Graphic Text set in Freeway, and the font specifications were in the global styles palette for the site). Then I would explain how Actions work, and show them how to write one. That’s when they would be scheming to figure out how to get their work to buy them a Mac (this was the early 00s, and the tech side of the house looked like an IBM booth).
Walter
Thanks a lot Peter
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