# NAS

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**Created:** [April 4, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721 "2012-04-04T18:39:29Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721/1 "2012-04-04T18:39:29Z")

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I’m looking for NAS recommendations that offer similar functionality to this [http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567](http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567). If you use something you like let me know.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721/2 "2012-04-04T18:48:30Z")

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Hi Todd

Looks a really neat management console, and looks much better than any  
ones I’ve seen, Buffalo, WD, Netgear. Probably even the Drobo, which  
nearly manages itself.

Must take a closer look at the Lacie offering.

P

> Todd [mailto:email@hidden](mailto:email@hidden)  
> 4 April 2012 19:39  
> I’m looking for NAS recommendations that offer similar functionality  
> to this [http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567](http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567). If you  
> use something you like let me know.
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> Todd  
> [http://xiiro.com](http://xiiro.com)
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**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721/3 "2012-04-04T23:52:02Z")

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> Must take a closer look at the Lacie offering.

Look at Synology too, [http://www.synology.com/products/](http://www.synology.com/products/). I’m leaning towards these guys.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721/4 "2012-04-05T21:09:36Z")

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At 13:39 -0500 4/4/12, Todd wrote:

> I’m looking for NAS recommendations that offer similar functionality  
> to this [http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567](http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567). If you  
> use something you like let me know.
> 
> Todd  
> [http://xiiro.com](http://xiiro.com)

I have a WD World Book thingy. It’s desperately slow. The problem  
must be internal as it’s on a 1Gb across-desk network.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721/5 "2012-04-05T23:06:44Z")

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Never used anything from these guys, but SansDigital have interesting pricing. [Sans Digital Store](http://store.sansdigital-shop.com/index.html)

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721/6 "2012-04-05T23:23:38Z")

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Yeah, I’ve heard that the WD NAS uses a dirt-slow implementation of AppleShare Filing Protocol from some free Unix port from the 90s, and that if you connect to it over the Windows protocol, it’s quite a lot faster. You might want to try that. SMB for the win?

Walter

On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:09 PM, David Ledger wrote:

> I have a WD World Book thingy. It’s desperately slow. The problem must be internal as it’s on a 1Gb across-desk network.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:44am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721/7 "2012-04-06T08:44:34Z")

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Never seen or used the Synology, but they do get a good review from  
various Mags here in the UK, PC Pro, Macworld & MacUser. The DS411 is  
quite a recent beast which is the one I would go for if I had to buy one  
today. I’d probably up the memory from 512k to whatever makes sense as  
memory is pretty cheap.

I saw recently a chart detailing the speed comparisons of various  
devices and networks but I could only locate these numbers:

USB Hi-Speed (USB 2.0) 480 Mbit/s 60 MB/s  
FireWire (IEEE 1394b) 800[43] 786.432 Mbit/s 98.304 MB/s  
Gigabit Ethernet (1000BASE-X) 1 Gbit/s 125 MB/s  
USB super speed (USB 3.0) 5 Gbit/s 625 MB/s  
Thunderbolt 10 Gbit/s × 2 1.25  
GB/s × 2

USB3 is not currently on Macs, although I guess it’s on Macs and Apple  
could turn it on if they chose to?

And Thunderbolt has never taken off in any sensible way, maybe this year  
will be it. The cables are so complex and expensive and I believe the  
chipsets only intel can supply are prohibitively expensive.

P

> Todd [mailto:email@hidden](mailto:email@hidden)  
> 5 April 2012 00:52
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> Look at Synology too, [http://www.synology.com/products/](http://www.synology.com/products/). I’m leaning  
> towards these guys.
> 
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> 4 April 2012 19:48
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> Hi Todd
> 
> Looks a really neat management console, and looks much better than any  
> ones I’ve seen, Buffalo, WD, Netgear. Probably even the Drobo, which  
> nearly manages itself.
> 
> Must take a closer look at the Lacie offering.
> 
> P
> 
> Todd [mailto:email@hidden](mailto:email@hidden)  
> 4 April 2012 19:39  
> I’m looking for NAS recommendations that offer similar functionality  
> to this [http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567](http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567). If you  
> use something you like let me know.
> 
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Part of the problem is that it’s taken so long for Thunderbolt-ready peripherals to make it to market. Now that they’re finally gaining a little momentum perhaps TB will gain greater acceptance.

The DS411 is a beast. I do like the DS212+ also. Nice, for just a 2 bay.

Todd

> The DS411 is quite a recent beast which is the one I would go for if I had to buy one today.
> 
> And Thunderbolt has never taken off in any sensible way, maybe this year will be it. The cables are so complex and expensive and I believe the chipsets only intel can supply are prohibitively expensive.
> 
> > Looks a really neat management console, and looks much better than any ones I’ve seen, Buffalo, WD, Netgear. Probably even the Drobo, which nearly manages itself.
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> > Must take a closer look at the Lacie offering.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 12:37pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/nas/13721/9 "2012-04-06T12:37:43Z")

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It uses different hardware, so Apple would need to add that hardware. You can buy PCI cards for the big Mac towers that add USB3 ports.

Walter

On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Peter Tucker wrote:

> USB3 is not currently on Macs, although I guess it’s on Macs and Apple could turn it on if they chose to?

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At 19:23 -0400 5/4/12, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

> Yeah, I’ve heard that the WD NAS uses a dirt-slow implementation of  
> AppleShare Filing Protocol from some free Unix port from the 90s,  
> and that if you connect to it over the Windows protocol, it’s quite  
> a lot faster. You might want to try that. SMB for the win?
> 
> Walter

Thanks, but I’m already using SMB.

David

> On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:09 PM, David Ledger wrote:
> 
> > I have a WD World Book thingy. It’s desperately slow. The problem  
> > must be internal as it’s on a 1Gb across-desk network.

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Yikes, I did not send the original message below!!??

The comments however are mine.

Peter Tucker wrote:

> Never seen or used the Synology, but they do get a good review from  
> various Mags here in the UK, PC Pro, Macworld & MacUser. The DS411 is  
> quite a recent beast which is the one I would go for if I had to buy  
> one today. I’d probably up the memory from 512k to whatever makes  
> sense as memory is pretty cheap.  
> I have a Synology NAS the DS414 and it’s great. I have had NASs from  
> Buffalo, Western Digital and others previously, but two years ago I got  
> my first Synology after quite a lot of research and have not looked back.
> 
> I saw recently a chart detailing the speed comparisons of various  
> devices and networks but I could only locate these numbers:
> 
> USB Hi-Speed (USB 2.0) 480 Mbit/s 60 MB/s  
> FireWire (IEEE 1394b) 800[43] 786.432 Mbit/s 98.304 MB/s  
> Gigabit Ethernet (1000BASE-X) 1 Gbit/s 125 MB/s  
> USB super speed (USB 3.0) 5 Gbit/s 625 MB/s  
> Thunderbolt 10 Gbit/s × 2 1.25 GB/s × 2
> 
> USB3 is not currently on Macs, although I guess it’s on Macs and Apple  
> could turn it on if they chose to?  
> That’s not true, however it did take Apple [Steve Jobs dragging his  
> feet] to catch up with USB3. AFAICR it was about 2 years ago Apple  
> started putting it on new Macs.
> 
> And Thunderbolt has never taken off in any sensible way, maybe this  
> year will be it. The cables are so complex and expensive and I believe  
> the chipsets only intel can supply are prohibitively expensive.
> 
> P
> 
> > Todd [mailto:email@hidden](mailto:email@hidden)  
> > 5 April 2012 00:52
> > 
> > Look at Synology too, [http://www.synology.com/products/](http://www.synology.com/products/). I’m  
> > leaning towards these guys.
> > 
> > Todd  
> > [http://xiiro.com](http://xiiro.com)
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> > Peter Tucker [mailto:email@hidden](mailto:email@hidden)  
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> > 
> > Hi Todd
> > 
> > Looks a really neat management console, and looks much better than  
> > any ones I’ve seen, Buffalo, WD, Netgear. Probably even the Drobo,  
> > which nearly manages itself.
> > 
> > Must take a closer look at the Lacie offering.
> > 
> > P
> > 
> > Todd [mailto:email@hidden](mailto:email@hidden)  
> > 4 April 2012 19:39  
> > I’m looking for NAS recommendations that offer similar functionality  
> > to this [http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567](http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10567). If you  
> > use something you like let me know.
> > 
> > Todd  
> > [http://xiiro.com](http://xiiro.com)
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