Okay - I'm Frustrated...

Since I have using Freeway Pro 5 I have been battling one issue that I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong or its just a bug.

I will create a graphic box (400x400) then import a graphic that is larger than the box (600x600). The graphic comes in to the box like a thumb view (100x100).

I will go into PS and make the image huge 20MB then import it again and rescale it down.

Is anyone having the same issue out there? Sometimes if I shut down the program and try it again it works right away… ahhhh. Can’t figure this one out???

Thanks,

The Fuz


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Are the images you are importing at 72 ppi or are they higher rez than that? Try making the original at 72 ppi and see if that helps.

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I’ll give it a try - my photos are high res.

What I did notice is if I right click on top of the image and then choose “original size”, then double click on the image select and choose “resample” it seems to improve the resolution. Why doesn’t it just import at the normal size or resolution?

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On 13 May 2009, at 03:48, Fuzzy Z wrote:

What I did notice is if I right click on top of the image and then
choose “original size”, then double click on the image select and
choose “resample” it seems to improve the resolution. Why doesn’t it
just import at the normal size or resolution?

When in image is imported it usually comes in at the physical size of
the original. With high resolution (e.g. 300 ppi) FW sometimes seems
to just go to a miniscule size in the graphic box. The first trick to
try in all cases is to resize in FW.

Click on the imported image and use the shortcut keys Shift + Alt +
Command + F and the image will make the best fit to the box. You can
scale further by going to the Item Menu > Graphics or by using the
keys Shift + Alt + Command + . for larger (to take up ‘white space’)
or Shift + Alt + Command + , to reduce size within the graphic box -
or you can set the image size more accurately, rotate and re-scale
using the Item Menu > Transform (keys Alt + Command +T). Adjust the
Content dimensions to adjust the image within the borders of the
graphic box.

Also, when you change an image and import a new pic of a different
size to replace an existing graphic, FW picks up the previous scaling
which can result in out of scale images or even what appear to be
blank boxes, in some instances. Just use the Shift + Alt + Command + F
keys and re-scale from there, as necessary.

Resample your image once this is done, as you have discovered, and you
will get a better representation on screen. However, Freeway will
optimise the image on Publish, anyway, should you forget after a minor
adjustment.

Finally you can choose output type and quality as GIF, JPEG or PNG in
the Inspector > third Tab from left (mini web page icon). In general,
use GIF for simple colours and clip art, JPEG for photos and anything
with colour gradients and PNG set at Colors: Millions for clean
transparency around cut out images and the like.

Well, that’s a basic, non technical view, which I hope helps you sort
out your image graphics. But keep asking if you need to know more -
there’s usually someone who’ll have had the same experiences as you -
and solved the problems.

Colin


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on 13/05/2009 03:48, Fuzzy Z at email@hidden wrote:

What I did notice is if I right click on top of the image and then choose
“original size”, then double click on the image select and choose “resample”
it seems to improve the resolution. Why doesn’t it just import at the normal
size or resolution?

I’ve found that if you drag & drop a new image into a box already containing
a scaled image the new one replaces at the scale of the old image.

My preferred method for trouble-free image placement is to prepare them
exactly as I want them to look outside FW in Photoshop scaling and cropping
as necessary to the size of the frame in FW at 72ppi and converting to
profile sRGB, then bringing the images in as “pass-through” images, then all
FW does is to upload and feed to the browser. What I’ve done here:

http://dantucker.co.uk

I do use FWs scaling functions when I’m designing/experimenting and on sites
that don’t require the high-fidelity of a photographer’s work.

HTH

Best wishes Peter

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Peter Tucker, Oxford UK email@hidden


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Just to add to the points made, this is taken from the KnowledgeBase:

"When you import a picture into Freeway the image is automatically
optimized for you and converted to the standard web format of 72ppi.
This will cause your image to appear smaller in Freeway than you may
have been expecting. Use the Transform dialog or the Scale and Pad or
Scale and Trim options to increase the size of the content, but
remember to resample the image after doing so. To do this double click
on the graphic item and click the Resample button.

To guarantee that your image comes in at the same size as the original
check the IgnoreResolution option in the Import dialog. Checking Pass-
Through will also guarantee the same size image but pass-throughs
cannot be changed in any way in Freeway."

http://www.softpress.com/kb/questions/89/Using+High-Resolution+Images

Joe

On 13 May 2009, at 09:25, Peter Tucker wrote:

on 13/05/2009 03:48, Fuzzy Z at email@hidden wrote:

What I did notice is if I right click on top of the image and then
choose
“original size”, then double click on the image select and choose
“resample”
it seems to improve the resolution. Why doesn’t it just import at
the normal
size or resolution?

I’ve found that if you drag & drop a new image into a box already
containing
a scaled image the new one replaces at the scale of the old image.

My preferred method for trouble-free image placement is to prepare
them
exactly as I want them to look outside FW in Photoshop scaling and
cropping
as necessary to the size of the frame in FW at 72ppi and converting to
profile sRGB, then bringing the images in as “pass-through” images,
then all
FW does is to upload and feed to the browser. What I’ve done here:

http://dantucker.co.uk

I do use FWs scaling functions when I’m designing/experimenting and
on sites
that don’t require the high-fidelity of a photographer’s work.

HTH

Best wishes Peter

================================
Peter Tucker, Oxford UK email@hidden


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Though its not a big deal for me - as I have accepted and understood that
Freeway does what it does - I wonder if it wouldn’t be helpful to have this
the other way around - so the default is what most (?) would expect(?)

An "obey image resolution’ checkbox.

However, if there are advantages to following a print setting then I’m
willing to let go of such a wish immediately.
Are there any?

all the best
Brian

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To guarantee that your image comes in at the same size as the original
check the IgnoreResolution option in the Import dialog. Checking Pass-
Through will also guarantee the same size image but pass-throughs
cannot be changed in any way in Freeway."


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It’s all a matter of perspective.

Freeway was born out of a print DTP application called Uniqorn. This
application was revolutionary for the time (still is in some ways –
name a DTP app today which lets you set each page in a document to a
different size) and even would allow you to export a document as a
Java applet that you could embed directly into your Web page.
Considering this was in the mid 90s, when the Web was in diapers, this
was kind of like finding a Federation Shuttle parked in your driveway
one morning.

Uniqorn made a respectable run at the then-leader QuarkXPress, and was
well poised for growth when Apple pulled the plug on their QuickTime
GX product, effectively gutting its ability to print anything.

Softpress looked around, saw that this Web thing was up-and-coming,
and translated their nascent Web export into a real HTML export (I’m
drastically over-simplifying here) and launched Freeway 1.

For all intents and purposes, Freeway 1 was Uniqorn with a different
print layer.

So the print heritage runs very very deep into the bones of the
application. And the market for this application has been in large
measure classical print designers who want to branch out into Web
design while maintaining their sanity.

So when you say “most” would expect, think about the print designers.
All DTP apps respect the dimension headers of images. Every one of
them. It’s what a print designer expects.

Walter

On May 13, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Brian Steere wrote:

Though its not a big deal for me - as I have accepted and understood
that
Freeway does what it does - I wonder if it wouldn’t be helpful to
have this
the other way around - so the default is what most (?) would expect(?)


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Wow… That’s great…

I have a much more understanding on whats going on when I’m importing images.

Things have been going a lot better - thank-you everyone who made a posting… Much appreachiated.

~The Fuz


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Yes indeed Walter,

Perhaps that is still the case with most who are attracted to Freeway - that
they are print based designers used to thinking of images in terms of print
rendering rather than as a grid of pixels.

Perhaps its enough that there is a checkbox for 72dpi available.

all the best
Brian

Walter Lee Davis said recently:

It’s all a matter of perspective.

Freeway was born out of a print DTP application called Uniqorn. This
application was revolutionary for the time (still is in some ways –
name a DTP app today which lets you set each page in a document to a
different size) and even would allow you to export a document as a
Java applet that you could embed directly into your Web page.
Considering this was in the mid 90s, when the Web was in diapers, this
was kind of like finding a Federation Shuttle parked in your driveway
one morning.

Uniqorn made a respectable run at the then-leader QuarkXPress, and was
well poised for growth when Apple pulled the plug on their QuickTime
GX product, effectively gutting its ability to print anything.

Softpress looked around, saw that this Web thing was up-and-coming,
and translated their nascent Web export into a real HTML export (I’m
drastically over-simplifying here) and launched Freeway 1.

For all intents and purposes, Freeway 1 was Uniqorn with a different
print layer.

So the print heritage runs very very deep into the bones of the
application. And the market for this application has been in large
measure classical print designers who want to branch out into Web
design while maintaining their sanity.

So when you say “most” would expect, think about the print designers.
All DTP apps respect the dimension headers of images. Every one of
them. It’s what a print designer expects.

Walter

On May 13, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Brian Steere wrote:

Though its not a big deal for me - as I have accepted and understood
that
Freeway does what it does - I wonder if it wouldn’t be helpful to
have this
the other way around - so the default is what most (?) would expect(?)


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Perhaps its enough that there is a checkbox for 72dpi available.

ppi

:slight_smile:

k


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how did that p get upside down!
:wink:

Keith Martin said recently:

Perhaps its enough that there is a checkbox for 72dpi available.

ppi

:slight_smile:

k


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