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Can we lock pictures down so they can not be dragged and dropped?
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Dragged and dropped where? In the Freeway design interface, or on the browser? If the latter, you may be able to do something, but it would probably be pretty glitchy.

If this is an attempt to circumvent image piracy, recall that in order to display an image on your computer, your browser must first download it. Getting that image resource out of the local filesystem is a trivial task. Any image thief worth her salt will be able to do it no matter what you do to lock it down.

The only way to avoid piracy is to never publish the image anywhere.

Walter

On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Good morning

Can we lock pictures down so they can not be dragged and dropped?
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I totally understand about no theft no publish…
I am talking about the browser… It would give the artists a wee bit o piece of mind

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On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:06, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

Dragged and dropped where? In the Freeway design interface, or on the browser? If the latter, you may be able to do something, but it would probably be pretty glitchy.

If this is an attempt to circumvent image piracy, recall that in order to display an image on your computer, your browser must first download it. Getting that image resource out of the local filesystem is a trivial task. Any image thief worth her salt will be able to do it no matter what you do to lock it down.

The only way to avoid piracy is to never publish the image anywhere.

Walter

On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

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that’s the thing, Julie… there is no way to prevent image theft from the browser. As an artist, my advice to artists, is to find the balance between what advantage the Internet gives you, versus the fact that your images will be taken.

Making high resolution images available only as a paid download can help deter casual theft. You still have to pay for good lawyers to prosecute people who take their purchased image and resell it. And budget either your time or pay another to police your work.

In essence, there is only so much you can do. Artists and photographers (they’re the same, really) must satisfy themselves they are doing what can be done, but if they truly want to avoid being taken advantage of, they must never publish on the Internet.


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On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen email@hidden wrote:

I totally understand about no theft no publish…
I am talking about the browser… It would give the artists a wee bit o piece of mind


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Ernie,

I do understand I think that they feel that if one ounce of prevention can be done… They are happy that something is done…

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On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:48, Ernie Simpson email@hidden wrote:

that’s the thing, Julie… there is no way to prevent image theft from the browser. As an artist, my advice to artists, is to find the balance between what advantage the Internet gives you, versus the fact that your images will be taken.

Making high resolution images available only as a paid download can help deter casual theft. You still have to pay for good lawyers to prosecute people who take their purchased image and resell it. And budget either your time or pay another to police your work.

In essence, there is only so much you can do. Artists and photographers (they’re the same, really) must satisfy themselves they are doing what can be done, but if they truly want to avoid being taken advantage of, they must never publish on the Internet.


Ernie Simpson

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I totally understand about no theft no publish…
I am talking about the browser… It would give the artists a wee bit o piece of mind


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Apply Protaculous to the page, select prototype-packed from the Library picker. Paste the following into the top Function Body editor:

 $$('img').invoke('observe', 'mousedown', function(){alert('Cut it out');})

Repeating myself and Ernie; all this will ever be is an annoyance, not a true deterrent (on account of the fact that there isn’t one possible on the Web).

Walter

On Nov 19, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Ernie,

I do understand I think that they feel that if one ounce of prevention can be done… They are happy that something is done…

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On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:48, Ernie Simpson email@hidden wrote:

that’s the thing, Julie… there is no way to prevent image theft from the browser. As an artist, my advice to artists, is to find the balance between what advantage the Internet gives you, versus the fact that your images will be taken.

Making high resolution images available only as a paid download can help deter casual theft. You still have to pay for good lawyers to prosecute people who take their purchased image and resell it. And budget either your time or pay another to police your work.

In essence, there is only so much you can do. Artists and photographers (they’re the same, really) must satisfy themselves they are doing what can be done, but if they truly want to avoid being taken advantage of, they must never publish on the Internet.


Ernie Simpson

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If you have to implement something (even if if it won’t help) then placing a transparent gif over the image will prevent dragging the actual image (they’ll be dragging an empty gif). Tim’s Image Guardian action does this, and more.

Todd

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ok… that sounds good! and I have experienced that too!

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If you have to implement something (even if if it won’t help) then placing a transparent gif over the image will prevent dragging the actual image (they’ll be dragging an empty gif). Tim’s Image Guardian action does this, and more.

Todd

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Not to belabor the point, but I would be interested in seeing what you come
up with, and how well it works.


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On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Julie Maxwell email@hidden wrote:

ok… that sounds good! and I have experienced that too!

On Nov 19, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Todd email@hidden wrote:

If you have to implement something (even if if it won’t help) then
placing a transparent gif over the image will prevent dragging the actual
image (they’ll be dragging an empty gif). Tim’s Image Guardian action does
this, and more.

Todd

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can be done… They are happy that something is done…


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and how well it works.

The simple fact is that it doesn’t work except for the most casual thief!

Screengrab and it gone!

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Why not use watermarks in the images?

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On 19 Nov 2012, at 19:22, “DeltaDave” email@hidden wrote:

The simple fact is that it doesn’t work except for the most casual thief!

Screengrab and it gone!


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On 19 Nov 2012, at 20:18, David Owen email@hidden wrote:

Why not use watermarks in the images?

Because, speaking as a photographer, it ruins them visually. And I mean ruins. I don’t mean to sound contentious, but it’s a massive retrograde step to ruin your pictures because you’re scared of a thief.

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As a compromise, how about using a graphic text layer over the photos that would act as a watermark without actually changing the image. This way the layer could be removed once official permission to copy is given.

It won’t stop anyone, but at least they won’t get a clean screen grab. Of course the web savvy can always hunt in the html for the file path and help themselves that way I suppose.


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Interesting…
I like that idea and the one about the clear gif too

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As a compromise, how about using a graphic text layer over the photos that would act as a watermark without actually changing the image. This way the layer could be removed once official permission to copy is given.

It won’t stop anyone, but at least they won’t get a clean screen grab. Of course the web savvy can always hunt in the html for the file path and help themselves that way I suppose.


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I like that idea and the one about the clear gif too

But you have to make it clear to your client - if its on the Web it can be stolen. If you dont want it stolen then dont put it up there!

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I plan to. it would just be a bit of piece of mind for them.

On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:11 PM, DeltaDave email@hidden wrote:

I like that idea and the one about the clear gif too

But you have to make it clear to your client - if its on the Web it can be stolen. If you dont want it stolen then dont put it up there!

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it would just be a bit of piece of mind for them

The only true peace of mind (note spelling of peace) - is not to put them out there.


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I realize that - most of these are being sold on this store… but at least w the clear gif they can not drag and drop off…

thats all they want.

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it would just be a bit of piece of mind for them

The only true peace of mind (note spelling of peace) - is not to put them out there.


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