I suppose it all depends on who it adding the website content. If the designer is in charge of CMS templates he might only create 5-6 templates for the whole site and the product pages perhaps even one templates.
It would not make sense to pay a designer say £300+ a day just adding CMS content for 600 pages. Cheaper labour would be needed.
On a side note I’ve alway found a CMS far quicker to add lots of content than Freeway.
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David Owen
On 11 Jun 2015, at 10:02, Thomas Kimmich email@hidden wrote:
Very interesting talk here, so I’d like to throw my hat in the ring.
####I’ve never had a client with such a high page quantity - I wonder why?
Let’s start by my request for proposal (only the HTML part):
The index page (including Menu)
479€
Each following HTML page
79€
Wich will make:
479€ + (79€ x 599) = 47.800 €
Cool - so far. Let’s add Inventory, Research and writing the Outline:
9.900€
And Design, Fonts, Colors
1900€
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####€59.600
Makin’ this responsive?
Hmmm - well - I think I do this Free of Charge.
####Believe it or not!
I could even make another ROP - one which could suite much better the client’s needs. But I’m honest - it has to do with a 10-15 pages website, proper SEO and a nice and clever PDF catalogue.
Cheers
Thomas
PS:
Yes - I read Mike Monteiro’s “Design is a Job” and saw several talks of him.
It’s a really good point about adding the content - whichever method is used to do this (CMS or not).
The design would only be about 2 or 3 different page templates (as others have suggested) but populating would take time and that is a conversation I will have with the client.
On the subject of population, unless I’m missing something, this will still take a long time for someone to do and I’m not sure why a CMS would be much quicker here. I get that content would be loaded via a database but the database would have to have the content first right?
I did think about the idea of a PDF brochure but as David has pointed out, it would not be searchable and SEO-friendly.
I will be having my meeting with the client in the next week or so and I will be in a much better position to move forward after that.
At this stage, I think it will be a toss-up between Walter’s Inlay CMS or Pulse (using some of Tim’s plug-ins and customisations)
Thanks again - I will update this when I settle on a solution.
Mark
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I did think about the idea of a PDF brochure but as David has pointed out, it would not be searchable and SEO-friendly.
And exactly that’s the route I’d going down the way.
A 10-12 page-project, well authored and outlined - included the details by an external or additional file is more worth than a detailed monolith. Only the client itself and its competition will take the time to read (perhaps).
More pages doesn’t make a page necessarily better SEO.
A potential client needs to be attracted - not slayed. Web can be the start of a nice communication which is (except of Amazon) still the best way making business (at least here in the Old world).
Thus spoken, I naturally know nothing about clients profession. But I rarely fail, saying Web is part of marketing-mix (except of as said eCom and Blogs such as CSS-Tricks and upcoming Creative https://creativ.space ).
Do it wise - and flexible! And forget about: “But client said …” - except you are not the designer. If you’re not the designer they just seek for a henchman preparing the next mess. Then charge as much as you can.