[Pro] A curious case of Master settings needing reset all the time.

I’m using the excellent scripty Accordian action on a menu but I’m finding that when I go to preview the finished item that things are not expanding and contracting a la the accordian style. I have not touched the menu at all prior to this so when I go to check the menu on the page I find that if I unclick then reclick the ‘Use Master Settings’ that when I go back to preview that the accordian works perfectly. Is this something I can resolve and not have to do. The website I am using the action on is expanding in terms of numbers of pages and almost all of them require me to go through the unchecking and rechecking of the master settings box to get it to work. Any thoughts?


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Ok so there appears to be an anomaly of sorts here.
I’ve had it working but even if I don’t touch the master page with the menu with the scripty accordian, which is on every page, all of the pages require to be republished rather than just the pages I’ve been working on.
Its all a bit confusing.

Also I have four or five actions on the one page and they don’t all appear to function at the same time as there is always one or other which does function as it should when I go to preview the page. Is there a limit or are there clashes between actions which render them in active?
It is slowing down my progress on a few websites I’m working on.


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Ok I may seem like I’m talking to myself here but I really could do with a bit of insight into whats going on with this website I am building.
I have the structure ready to upload. I save it, publish it and all seems ok. When I go to preview a page then all of the pages show the black dot which to me means that something has changed on a page. Sure enough when I go to preview it things aren’t as they should be. I am using the Scipty Accordian for example and it doesn’t play the way the accordian should play! The other actions are also rather intermittent in performing as they should do.
If I go to the accordian item and untick then retick the Use Master Settings box and then preview it then it works fine. But of course this would mean having to go through every page and redoing this. Then it may be a case of going round in circles with it once I republish it.

I have tried publishing it to another folder as well but couldn’t see any difference…
I have the excellent accordian action on the master page and I know Walter had mentioned something about this being a possible source of problems. Just wondering if it is possible to elaborate on this at all?

Its quite frustrating as I am really keen to get this project uploaded and out there. Any insights would be welcome.


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Please try using the Accordion as a non-master element. Even if you use it exactly the same way in exactly the same position on every page in your site, you really might find it easier to copy and paste it from page to page, rather than rely on the Master behavior. There are quite a few issues with Master Pages and Actions, particularly Actions that attach files to the page (as SA does). I believe this is being actively worked on by Softpress, but until it’s really fixed and tested, you should probably refrain from using complex Actions like this from the Master page context.

Walter


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Thanks for getting back to me.
Its a bit reassuring to know its not something I had done wrongly though I guess using the action on a master page was just such a case!
Its a pity when something like this impedes the ease of use of Freeway. Just when I was being more disciplined with using Master pages as well!
I look forward to hearing when such things are resolved.
I’ve since done as you say and so far so good. I gave up crossing my fingers a while back as its too hard to type!


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Just a thought but would it be an idea to maybe have such a thing as a master item rather than a master page which would mean that the item would update any changes on whatever pages it is used on?


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For this what I normally do is place an item on the home page and asign ‘Create simple includes’ to it, then on the subsequent page insert > Use simple includes

This has worked really well for navigation / footers etc. which tend not to be in the save place on certain sites I’ve done.

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On 16 Jun 2010, at 10:34, tonzodehoo wrote:

Just a thought but would it be an idea to maybe have such a thing as a master item rather than a master page which would mean that the item would update any changes on whatever pages it is used on?


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Hmm. I’ll give it a go and see how it works. Would this be ok with the Scripty accordian action?
BY home page I assume you don’t mean a master page but just the index page of the site?

Thanks for your suggestion. Really appreciate your thoughts.


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Yes I do mean the home (index.html) page. I haven’t tried it on the accoridan, but have an accordian on one site currently in development which I will try later.

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On 16 Jun 2010, at 10:57, tonzodehoo wrote:

Hmm. I’ll give it a go and see how it works. Would this be ok with the Scripty accordian action?
BY home page I assume you don’t mean a master page but just the index page of the site?

Thanks for your suggestion. Really appreciate your thoughts.


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Ok, I’ve had a look and can’t seem to find hoe to ‘Create simple includes’. Am I missing something glaringly obvious? If so I apologise.


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I’m not sure if there’s an upgrade to this action or not.

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On 16 Jun 2010, at 11:44, tonzodehoo wrote:

Ok, I’ve had a look and can’t seem to find hoe to ‘Create simple includes’. Am I missing something glaringly obvious? If so I apologise.


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Hi Nathan,
Sadly not. The action ‘should’ function as described in Freeway 5
although it can only do it’s best to locate required scripts and CSS
styles for the include item. There may be instances where the included
item is still looking for something on the original page. If you spot
anything let me know and I’ll see if I can fix it.
Regards,
Tim.

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Ok, thanks Tim.

With regard to the accordian, this would normally be a static item anyway so can quite easily be dropped onto the Master Page. I maily use the includes for footers etc. where they move within the box model accordingly.

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On 16 Jun 2010, at 12:05, Tim Plumb wrote:

Hi Nathan,
Sadly not. The action ‘should’ function as described in Freeway 5 although it can only do it’s best to locate required scripts and CSS styles for the include item. There may be instances where the included item is still looking for something on the original page. If you spot anything let me know and I’ll see if I can fix it.
Regards,
Tim.

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This has been discussed and wished for out loud for a very long time.
Good to hear more cheer for it, and I live in hope that I will see the
day.

Walter

On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:34 AM, tonzodehoo wrote:

Just a thought but would it be an idea to maybe have such a thing as
a master item rather than a master page which would mean that the
item would update any changes on whatever pages it is used on?


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