[Pro] Any non-Freeway options for non-coders?

Would anyone recommend Muse? After looking at a few video tutorials, it does look interesting, especially for a non-coder like myself. But being on a subscription model puts me off.


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I think a nice alternative to Freeway might be Sparkle, I have created a few sites for friends and family and it is very intuitive to use, no code at all. Worth checking out. The website is sparkle.cx


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Good call Orazio, thanks for the link.
Trev

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I think a nice alternative to Freeway might be Sparkle, I have created a few sites for friends and family and it is very intuitive to use, no code at all. Worth checking out. The website is sparkle.cx


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On 12 Jul 2016, 8:31 am, Orazio Colmans wrote:

I think a nice alternative to Freeway might be Sparkle, I have created a few sites for friends and family and it is very intuitive to use, no code at all. Worth checking out. The website is sparkle.cx

That actually looks like a nice option, and the reviews on the Mac App Store are pretty positive. For a small single site, it’s free to use both from the MAS and their site, so that should give people a chance to see if it works for them.


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I’m currently diving into Coffeecup. They seem to have created a suite of great stand-alone apps like I mentioned a couple of times to Softpress … it looks great, it feels good, but I need to shake off Freeway before I think a will be a 100% comfortable. They need a consistent GUI, you can see/feel the apps have been developed in various periods of time. They just don’t match completely, but for a $300 you’re all set.


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Does Pinegrow have a built in CMS?


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No.

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Does Pinegrow have a built in CMS?


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It has a beautifully simple interface, but very limited functionality. Relies on JS to create rollover effects. Not much in the way of CSS editing. No code editing… Has an embed code function but that’s it.
Shows a lot of promise for future versions.

On 12 Jul 2016, 1:03 pm, Joe Muscara wrote:

On 12 Jul 2016, 8:31 am, Orazio Colmans wrote:

I think a nice alternative to Freeway might be Sparkle, I have created a few sites for friends and family and it is very intuitive to use, no code at all. Worth checking out. The website is sparkle.cx

That actually looks like a nice option, and the reviews on the Mac App Store are pretty positive. For a small single site, it’s free to use both from the MAS and their site, so that should give people a chance to see if it works for them.


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There’s a reader report at MacInTouch covering this very topic: http://www.macintouch.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=166

Walter

On Jul 14, 2016, at 1:09 AM, chuckamuck email@hidden wrote:

It has a beautifully simple interface, but very limited functionality. Relies on JS to create rollover effects. Not much in the way of CSS editing. No code editing… Has an embed code function but that’s it.
Shows a lot of promise for future versions.

On 12 Jul 2016, 1:03 pm, Joe Muscara wrote:

On 12 Jul 2016, 8:31 am, Orazio Colmans wrote:

I think a nice alternative to Freeway might be Sparkle, I have created a few sites for friends and family and it is very intuitive to use, no code at all. Worth checking out. The website is sparkle.cx

That actually looks like a nice option, and the reviews on the Mac App Store are pretty positive. For a small single site, it’s free to use both from the MAS and their site, so that should give people a chance to see if it works for them.


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Notice that Pinegrow is not intended to built complete sites, but to built
a template and needs to be exported afterwards.

2016-07-15 14:40 GMT+02:00 Walter Lee Davis email@hidden:

There’s a reader report at MacInTouch covering this very topic:
http://www.macintouch.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=166

Walter

On Jul 14, 2016, at 1:09 AM, chuckamuck email@hidden wrote:

It has a beautifully simple interface, but very limited functionality.
Relies on JS to create rollover effects. Not much in the way of CSS
editing. No code editing… Has an embed code function but that’s it.
Shows a lot of promise for future versions.

On 12 Jul 2016, 1:03 pm, Joe Muscara wrote:

On 12 Jul 2016, 8:31 am, Orazio Colmans wrote:

I think a nice alternative to Freeway might be Sparkle, I have created
a few sites for friends and family and it is very intuitive to use, no code
at all. Worth checking out. The website is sparkle.cx

That actually looks like a nice option, and the reviews on the Mac App
Store are pretty positive. For a small single site, it’s free to use both
from the MAS and their site, so that should give people a chance to see if
it works for them.


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Notice that Pinegrow is not intended to built complete sites, but to built
a template and needs to be exported afterwards.

Says who and what does “exported” mean? Could you please specify this (and note, that I’m currently tinkering with it!)

Cheers

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Thomas,

I’ve spent the past couple hours exploring Pinegrow and I’m diggin’ it.

Pinegrow + CodeKit make a nice package.

Although it’s highly unlikely I’ll give up my trusty text editor I may have to buy Pinegrow in case someday I do.

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Says who and what does “exported” mean? Could you please specify this (and note, that I’m currently tinkering with it!)


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Hi Todd,

there is no reason for giving up your well known and beloved Text (Code) Editor. Keep it. All you need to make sure is, to let know Pinegrow if you made alterations. As already said in another thread:

I understand, that 7 days trial sucks, I can’t change it :-). But I recognized as well, that 30 days doesn’t make things necessarily better.

This is one of Walter’s wisdom:

“Simply do it. Suck out the most you can and decide later if it was a good decision!” The point is, that it fills you with so much knowledge which can be even (in worst case) transferred to something better (or different) - or stay away at all.

I loved to adopt it - cause it’s true. No matter if it is CMS, Ruby on Rails or whatever. Things are there to teach you - not to harm.

Cheers

Thomas


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I think I’ll pick up the Pro version. I’m really enjoying myself!

Plus it’s reasonably priced.

Todd
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Hi Todd,

there is no reason for giving up your well known and beloved Text (Code) Editor. Keep it. All you need to make sure is, to let know Pinegrow if you made alterations. As already said in another thread:

I understand, that 7 days trial sucks, I can’t change it :-). But I recognized as well, that 30 days doesn’t make things necessarily better.

This is one of Walter’s wisdom:

“Simply do it. Suck out the most you can and decide later if it was a good decision!” The point is, that it fills you with so much knowledge which can be even (in worst case) transferred to something better (or different) - or stay away at all.

I loved to adopt it - cause it’s true. No matter if it is CMS, Ruby on Rails or whatever. Things are there to teach you - not to harm.

Cheers

Thomas


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On 15 Jul 2016, 9:46 pm, Todd wrote:

I think I’ll pick up the Pro version. I’m really enjoying myself!

Plus it’s reasonably priced.

Todd
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I’d love it if you’d do. It would make me feel a bit a less alone in this big ocean (full of sharks).

Cheers

Thomas


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Plus all Pinegrow products are currently 20% off.

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I’d love it if you’d do. It would make me feel a bit a less alone in this big ocean (full of sharks).


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The only problem is Pine Grow don’t have a CMS. Unfortunately many clients want the ability to edit on their own. I suppose the Word Press feature would be ok but I hate WordPress.
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There are dozens, perhaps even a hundred or more CMS options out there for every conceivable type of project and client, so why do you want a CMS that’s “baked” into a web design app?

I struggle to see the logic in it.

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The only problem is Pine Grow don’t have a CMS. Unfortunately many clients want the ability to edit on their own. I suppose the Word Press feature would be ok but I hate WordPress.


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Thomas,

Too bad Pinegrow only supports LESS. I would like some (native) Sass love, too.

Maybe in a future release.

Todd
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I’d love it if you’d do. It would make me feel a bit a less alone in this big ocean (full of sharks).


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