[Pro] Atomz Search Customization

Hey All,
I want to use the free atomz search on my freeway site…but instead of just using the markup item with the code in it I want to use that new fancy css styling action for forms.

how do I apply the below info to a form I draw in freeway? so I do not have to make this in a markup item?


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Freeway will let you configure one form per page (without add-on
actions, that is). So if you only need this one form on the page, you
could build all of this in the Form Setup dialog.

<form method="get" action="http://search.atomz.com/search/">
<input type="hidden" name="sp_a" value="sp100426fe">
<input size="15" name="sp_q"><br>
<input type="submit" value="Search">
<input type="hidden" name="sp_p" value="all">
<input type="hidden" name="sp_f" value="ISO-8859-1">
</form>

Line-by-line:

  1. Open Page / Form Setup. Change the Method picker to Get, and paste
    the entire address in the Action field (http://search.atomz.com/search/)
  2. Click on the Hidden Fields tab in the dialog, click New, and enter
    sp_a in the Name field, and sp100426fe in the Value field. Okay.
  3. Skip this for now, it’s the form field you will draw on the page.
  4. Skip this also.
  5. Click New, enter sp_p in the Name field, all in the Value field.
    Okay.
  6. Click New, enter sp_f in the Name field, ISO-8859-1 in the Value
    field. Okay.

Okay out of the Form Setup dialog, and draw or insert a text field on
your page. Make sure that it is named sp_q in the Name field on the
Output tab – this is distinct from the Title field on the left-most
tab, which is where you would name the element if it wasn’t a form
control.

Do the same for your submit button (no special naming needed here) on
the output tab of the Inspector, the Value field is where you set the
text which will appear in the button, so you could make that read
Search or Go or whatever you like.

Now test your form (before you go messing with it’s looks) and make
sure it works for you. If so, you can break out the crayons and start
making it purty!

Walter

On Apr 1, 2009, at 9:20 AM, MichaelBstrauss wrote:

Hey All,
I want to use the free atomz search on my freeway site…but instead
of just using the markup item with the code in it I want to use that
new fancy css styling action for forms.

how do I apply the below info to a form I draw in freeway? so I do
not have to make this in a markup item?


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Worked like a charm!!!

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Yes, but what this thread has described thus far is “the easy part.” You now have a search field in your site via Freeway. But that is not the complete set of steps if you then want your Search Results to appear with the look and feel of your site.

My question therefore is, how does one EASILY use Freeway to generate the code necessary to maintain the look of an existing site while prepare appropriate code for the Search Results, which is generated by Atomz server? In other words, I wish Freeway to generate the code I then need to copy and paste into the “Templates” section of one’s Atomz account.

Until now, I’ve had to spend hours hand-coding the mess. It’s really quite awful because I cannot figure out an easy way to get Freeway to do it.

Best,

James Wages


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Hi
I’m new to this forum-and to Freeway. I’m really surprised to find that there is no simple action to use to code a site search (ie a search limited to the site itself-not a built in google search of the whole web). I have been looking at almost every wysiwyg program for mac and pc (and linux) and Serif Webplus (handy program but generates very messy HTML in my view!) just adds it with a couple of clicks using a javascript code. Yet with freeway everyone is talking about atomz and subscription services (unless you want ads on the site). I’m building a site for a charity supporting victims of crime-totally unacceptable to have ads popping up. Am I missing something? Rapidweaver does it with one mouse click. Yet Freeway-by far the best in its class, seems to be unable to supply it. Can anyone help? I’ve trawled this forum and searched the net til I’m blue in the face and can’t find a solution… Surely someone can write an action (I’ll learn how if I need to!)


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A quick addiotion-
Hope this is OK: here’s the html that Serif Webplus puts in:
(if I shouldn’t post code like this please tell me nicely-I’m a newbie!) I can’t see any references to external site search management-all seems to be internal html and some javascript

Search
<iframe id="site_search_results_1" name="site_search_results_1" src="" allowtransparency="true" style="width:301px; height:120px; " frameborder="0" ></iframe>

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I am not sure what this is above…
but I would absolutely love to be able to put a customized results page on my website! Anyone know how this can be done???


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Hi Michael (and everyone else).
I’m not sure either. I’m a fine art painter who has done some press based graphic design in the past and now need to learn web design so my learning curve is steep. Like Everest… Hope the next it of info helps:

1: Serif webplus is a WYSIWYG Web Editor-very good but not quite up to pro standards as HTML editing within the system is possible but very hard to manage(it uses its own proprietary file system until you export as html). But it can’t be denied it really produces some excellent results.
2: They also produce DTP software (PagePlus) and a photoshop ike product (predicatably enough called PhotoPlus). Don’t get me wrong they are really good programs. The Webplus interface is VERY dtp like.
3: To put a site search in a webplus file you use the dtp style interface to put it in your website, (insert-site search-ok… that kind of level of difficulty!) and then, when you export it as html, the code I posted above appears in your source code, and looks like what I posted above-maybe you had already figured that out out but case I was less clear than I needed to be I thought I’d explain.

Now my question is easy: if WebPlus can just write a vew lines of html and javascript code to includes a site search, why can’t Freeway? (I’ve tried pasting the HTML snippet above from WebPlus into the source code of a freeway generated site and it doesn’t work…

Lets stir this one up! :wink:


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Martin,
I totally agree with you. I am a fairly accomplished web designer, a site search is always a head ache! I am sure if one of the great programers on this site look into atomz they could come up with the correct Markup code…

anyone???


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Since a detailed response to my original query in this thread is not forthcoming, it would appear that there is no easy solution to Atomz at present. As such, I can only hope that this thread serves to stimulate thought at SoftPress with regard to what is needed.

I would also like to encourage those of you who agree (such as MichaelBstrauss) to put your thoughts and wishes down in this thread. For the more people who mention it as a it, the more likely it will be addressed by Freeway in the future. But if only 2 or 3 of us mention this as a need, it is much less likely it would ever see the light of day.


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It is an interesting (and important) idea as to how a wave of willingness could be created-interesting because it would save us all a headache and improve an already excellent piece of software, but important too for the reason below-and perhaps this next comment would help to motivate a developer.
I am currently (and will in future) building a site for a charity which helps victims of crime. This means that firstly they have little (or no) money to pay for an ad-free search facility, and secondly they don’t want ads on the site for obvious reasons-imagine a female abuse victim accessing a site in distress needing support and seeing an ad for certain shall we say "male enlargement and enhancement’ services…on the very support site she is turning to. No, I don’t think it bears thinking about either. I’m not being melodramatic. We also have the scantily clad girls appearing on the site too, advertising all sorts of stuff. Not an option. Double whammy for the charity. Got to have site search-can’t have one. This is in my view an example of a compelling moral issue which is broader than designer convenience. How could we stir up a positive storm to get this ball rolling? Any ideas? I would be happy to write directly to the Freeway guys but if it wasn’t just me then there’s more chance of the suggestion being listened to.


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Sometime around 11/8/09 (at 13:40 -0400) Martin Bullivant said:

1: Serif webplus is a WYSIWYG Web Editor-very good but not quite up
to pro standards as HTML editing within the system is possible but
very hard to manage(it uses its own proprietary file system until
you export as html).

Nothing wrong with that! :slight_smile:
Whether or not it is up to pro standards depends more on the
flexibility of the layout environment and tools combined with the
power and ‘smarts’ of its internal HTML generation engine. (Okay, it
would need to allow code addition in some way too, as it isn’t
feasible for the developers to think of absolutely everything.)

if WebPlus can just write a vew lines of html and javascript code to
includes a site search, why can’t Freeway?

I looked at the code you posted and I don’t believe that that is all
that it takes. I don’t mean I don’t believe it works, but what you
showed isn’t all that would be needed behind the scenes.

A site search requires a pre-compiled index of the site’s text
content; what you showed was a form plus a reference to an external
.js (javascript) document. It would be more interesting to see the
contents of that file, but it still would need to reference a
separate index of the text contents of the site somehow.

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Points taken. Your explanation is very helpful. I am learning stuff every day.


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Points taken.

I would like to find out how that search actually operates. Could
someone perhaps point to a site that incorporates it? Something
relatively simple would help me dig through it of course. :slight_smile:

I’ll be away again for a few days, but perhaps after the weekend?

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I am glad to see some rumblings have begun! A site search integrated in freeway would be amazing tool!


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Hi I’ll try to make one make one and post it on a server then post a link to it here-might be a day or two though…


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On 12 Aug 2009, at 13:49, MichaelBstrauss wrote:

A site search integrated in freeway would be amazing tool!

Yes very much so!

Agreed -

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Martin!@ that would be amazing…can’t wait to see what you come up with…


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A site search integrated in freeway would be amazing tool!

I don’t know how possible this is. That’s why I’m curious about how
that other tool works. Does it contain its own index? Does it
silently piggyback onto a remote service?

When Martin gets an example online we can tear it apart and see
what’s involved. But please, don’t get your hopes up. I’m not an
Actions writer but I do know about software development, and I’m
certain that this is not a quick-fix thing at all. There are numerous
gnarly issues to deal with.

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I am absolutely of the same opinion-it may well already piggy-back on something else. Question is what, and could Freeway do the same? But caution is advised!


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