Does anybody have any experience of incorporating a wordpress blog into a freeway site, I was going to use blogger but this appears to be a seperate blog site seperate from my site and I’m concerned about the SEO aspects involved, am I correct in assuming the wordpress would be more of an integral part of my site and therefore more accessible and acceptable to google?
All help welcome
Steve
If you’re looking to host a blog on your own domain and what not you would probably want to invest some time in reading about how a content management system, like Wordpress, works. As of right now there isn’t a way to easily implement Wordpress into your site using Freeway. You would have to install the web-ware on your server space and then work with one of the Wordpress templates that are out there.
I did read a few weeks back on Twitter that someone was developing Actions to integrate Freeway with Wordpress and I would be interested to see how that will work considering my understanding of how to put a Wordpress template together versus how Freeway works. Should be interesting, but no release date on that.
Other systems to check out are PulseCMS and MODx. You should be able to do a search in the upper right hand corner of FWTalk here for CMS or Blogs and see other suggestions that people have offered.
with help from the Great Walter, Dan, DeltaDave and others I am blanking on, I build a “blog” on my website that I can share, and people can subscribe to and comment on. so it is a basic blog but not on one of the CMS systems like wordpress.
If you’re looking to host a blog on your own domain and what not you would probably want to invest some time in reading about how a content management system, like Wordpress, works. As of right now there isn’t a way to easily implement Wordpress into your site using Freeway. You would have to install the web-ware on your server space and then work with one of the Wordpress templates that are out there.
I did read a few weeks back on Twitter that someone was developing Actions to integrate Freeway with Wordpress and I would be interested to see how that will work considering my understanding of how to put a Wordpress template together versus how Freeway works. Should be interesting, but no release date on that.
Other systems to check out are PulseCMS and MODx. You should be able to do a search in the upper right hand corner of FWTalk here for CMS or Blogs and see other suggestions that people have offered.
The new version of MODx (Revolution) has been exceptionally well-
received. Unless you need Wordpress for a specific reason MODx is
worth a long look. It has an extremely active user-base and is overall
a better designed application compared to WP.
On Sep 15, 2010, at 22:42, Todd email@hidden wrote:
On Sep 15, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Dan J wrote:
Other systems to check out are PulseCMS and MODx
The new version of MODx (Revolution) has been exceptionally well-received. Unless you need Wordpress for a specific reason MODx is worth a long look. It has an extremely active user-base and is overall a better designed application compared to WP.
MODx is a full-blown Content Management System, Julie. Freeway would
be relegated to making templates for it, you would never use it the
other way around, as a little thing you inject into the larger Freeway
document. You’ll have to turn the telescope around the other way…
Walter
On Sep 16, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Todd wrote:
On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Thanks Todd!
Is that a mark up item in fw terms?
I never tried using MODx with Freeway but it may very well be
possible to merge the two. Might be a fun experiment.
GOt it, thats what I suspected looking at the site after Todds responce today.
Thank you
Julie
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
MODx is a full-blown Content Management System, Julie. Freeway would be relegated to making templates for it, you would never use it the other way around, as a little thing you inject into the larger Freeway document. You’ll have to turn the telescope around the other way…
Walter
On Sep 16, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Todd wrote:
On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Thanks Todd!
Is that a mark up item in fw terms?
I never tried using MODx with Freeway but it may very well be possible to merge the two. Might be a fun experiment.
Hi Julie. I use a really simple (and cheap - i.e: free) CMS which can be organised as a markup item in Freeway. It’s called Cutenews, and is available at: http://cutephp.com/
I love my blog on my site. I have a client that is debating wordpress or a real site that would have a potential blog on her site… but she likes the idea of the “google” and SEO of Wordpress. WHen I saw this come up - I was looking for more solutions than just WP to offer her.
Julie
On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Dick Tapsall wrote:
Hi Julie. I use a really simple (and cheap - i.e: free) CMS which can be organised as a markup item in Freeway. It’s called Cutenews, and is available at: http://cutephp.com/
I am really curious about Modx after reading the comments here, since I had never heard about it before chancing upon this thread. I have a Wordpress blog which has given me all sorts of problems since moving servers a couple months back, so I have been put off investing much time there with all the other work I have to do.
Given that I may wish to expand the blog in different ways at some point it sounds like Modx might offer some practical advantages. I need to do some research though first because I wouldn’t want to lose the plugin type features that can be added to Wordpress.
On a side note let me add my voice for a request to have an action that allows us to create designs in Freeway that work in with Wordpress or in this case Modx.
I am really curious about Modx after reading the comments here,
since I had never heard about it before chancing upon this thread. I
have a Wordpress blog which has given me all sorts of problems since
moving servers a couple months back, so I have been put off
investing much time there with all the other work I have to do.
Given that I may wish to expand the blog in different ways at some
point it sounds like Modx might offer some practical advantages. I
need to do some research though first because I wouldn’t want to
lose the plugin type features that can be added to Wordpress.
On a side note let me add my voice for a request to have an action
that allows us to create designs in Freeway that work in with
Wordpress or in this case Modx.
MODx is a very robust PHP/AJAX framework that was designed to function
as both a CMS and a web application tool if you’re inclined to venture
down that road. It’s also touted as being designer-friendly, their
words. Wordpress on the other hand started life as a blogging
application which over time has morphed/been hacked into a so-called
CMS. The design goal for each is very different and the end result in
terms of building sites and user-experience is equally different. I
haven’t done much with Wordpress but my limited experience was a
convoluted nightmare.
MODx (which I’m currently re-building my site with) is by comparison a
dream. It was obviously designed with not only the designer in mind
but the end-user as well. That’s not to say it doesn’t require effort
to learn how to use it; it’s powerful. It doesn’t (yet) have all the
plugins/modules that Wordpress does but to me that’s not a problem. As
I said earlier, the community is very active and the documentation is
also pretty good.
MODx is a sleeper application and worth looking at regardless of
whether or not it can be used with Freeway.
As another option the Perch people have released a Blog app that
integrates into their Perch CMS which is a lovely, lightweight yet
deceptively powerful little guy. I’ve used it and it’s nice. Read
about the Blog app here <Would you like a blog with that?
From what I’ve heard, Perch is quite similar to WebYep in some ways,
so I wonder if Max has any BlogPlans for his programme, would be nice
as it’s an excellent little add on. Sorry - heading slightly off topic.
Trev
On 20 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Todd wrote:
As another option the Perch people have released a Blog app that
integrates into their Perch CMS which is a lovely, lightweight yet
deceptively powerful little guy. I’ve used it and it’s nice. Read
about the Blog app here <Would you like a blog with that?
You have here looped RichText-Elements, on the right a WY Menu Element (to call new instances of a prebuild) site and of course as an archive and Disquss to give a quick comment (if necessary).
So actually it works with Max basic tools, just extended with disquss (Mature and Battle-Proved cit. Walter Davis).
There’s one more aspect to the traditional blog that I’m not sure you’ve covered here: tags. Used sparingly, tags can enrich the blog browsing experience by providing access to content you might have missed in a purely chronological presentation.I’m not sure how you could do that with Web Yep, but it might be worthwhile to try.
There’s usually (in a classic blog) a separate database table
containing tags, and a join table usually called taggings that applies
these tags to the various posts. So you have
*posts
*taggings (posts_id, tags_id)
*tags
And that allows you to apply multiple tags to a single post. When
generating the lookup of other related posts, you simply ask the tag
which other posts share that tag. For a post that has multiple tags,
you do the same thing for each tag, using a query that looks up all
posts that have any of the tags applied to the current post.
Since WebYep isn’t based on a relational database, I’m not sure how
you could approximate this there. I suppose you could have a tags
field on your posts, and put a string in it like ‘foo, bar, baz’ for
tags. But then how to search that field for related posts? I don’t
know actually how WY works on the inside so I’d only be guessing. How
do you apply the date / archiving behavior in that system?
Walter
On Sep 21, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Thomas Kimmich wrote:
Hi Walter,
this is a good point.
To my point of understanding:
“Links” that relate and point to other “interesting articles
referring to the same topic”.
Now 'cause my build up is more a rough, I thought the “archive” is
enough. But I agree, just to a certain point.
Beyond that I do not know how this is done in really blog-systems.
Is there an automator for it?
Insert the first script before head of your page and modify the paths. One is the link type, the other is the src. I prefer to use the absolute one starting with http://...
The archive-menu is set to global, so its content will be called from one single Textfile and that’s the point to make sure that all new called instances (by adding a new topic) will appear on all pages the menu contains. This was the basic blog-thought on it.
I’m more than sure, that actually it only could be done very basic manually because a “search related posts” will mean a “result related posts” and this is actually overwhelming me.
May I should ask Max about it? I’m sure he will be much more helpful then me.
I can explain this part. This is how an array or object is serialized
for storage in a plain text file. By the look of this, it’s an array.
This is how WebYep can create a complex structure, yet store it in a
text file and “re-hydrate” it later for use.
Walter
On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Thomas Kimmich wrote:
these page-contents do have cryptic startings like: