[Pro] Can you have 2 (or 50) of these on 1 page?

Hey everyone,

I am in need of having multiple separate forms on 1 page. They are underneath screencasts I am making.

I tried the 1st form by itself out and when it was just the first one it worked. When I DUPLICATED the the table that had the form stuff (text box, radio buttons) and tried on the 2nd form, it said fields needed to be filled in that were already. The names changed from like first to first1 so I thought I would be ok.

Looks like to me this can be done but it is a naming problem or something with the submit button?

Here is the temp page.

http://www.hoffkids.com/youtubepractice2.html#SC2

Thanks for any help,

Barry


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maybe what I have my visitors using is not even called “a form.” they are boxes for people to enter their name, email etc then submit so it goes to my email.

I saw the multiple form action but not sure if I need this.

tx,

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Rather than have several forms you could just have one which includes a picker where you can choose which video is being summarised. Less space required.

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Dave, do you mean, the form stays the same as 1 form and the embedded video above it can change?


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No, “boxes where people enter name…” pretty much defines what a form is.

Walter

On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Hoffkids wrote:

maybe what I have my visitors using is not even called “a form.” they are boxes for people to enter their name, email etc then submit so it goes to my email.

I saw the multiple form action but not sure if I need this.

tx,

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This is completely possible, but really what Dave was saying is that you could insert a picking list in your form, with each of the movies as an option within that list. Whichever one is selected in that field will be sent to you along with the contents of the (only one) collection of fields below it. Something like this:

 Movie: ( Picking list with three movie titles in it )
  Name: [                      ]
Review: +----------------------+
        |                      |
        |      textarea        |
        |                      |
        +----------------------+

When the reviewer fills this out, only the chosen movie name, along with the reviewer’s name and their review, will be sent to you. One form, N number of possible movies it can refer to.

As far as changing the video when the picking list is changed, that’s also possible, but it will take some additional scripting to pull off. Basically you would create a layer for each movie, then hide all but the first one with JavaScript, and then listen to the picking list for the “change” event to be fired. When it is, switch to the appropriate movie layer.

Walter

On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:04 AM, Hoffkids wrote:

Dave, do you mean, the form stays the same as 1 form and the embedded video above it can change?


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so cannot have the situation I was planning on?
can’t have many forms on 1 page?

I guess I will have to do each video on a separate web page?

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Walt, I need to send the kids the URL to get them directly and quickly to the embeded video and form beneath it. Since I envisioned all the videos on one page (makes no difference how long page is) I could anchor and send them that anchor URL

I can’t have them “pick” a video from a list or have it change in place (Dave).

Can I have multiple forms on 1 page? if not I have no choice but each video/form = new web page?

thanks!

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You can also have multiple forms on one page, but the question to ask here is why do you need them? What is the difference between these forms that makes it necessary to separate them out?

Are the questions different for each of the movies, for example? That would argue strongly for having a separate form per movie. (I mean, yes, you could make a whole one-page-app in JavaScript that would cheerfully swap out the movies and the form elements based on a user selection, but that’s a lot of work and complexity.)

One form per page is the Freeway standard, and the Multiple Form Suite exists to allow the more advanced user to break out of that mold.

Walter

On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Hoffkids wrote:

so cannot have the situation I was planning on?
can’t have many forms on 1 page?

I guess I will have to do each video on a separate web page?

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see above message and YES they questions could vary slightly at times. Good thought; I forgot about that.


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so to simply get this working…

http://www.hoffkids.com/youtubepractice2.html

I need to use the multiple form suite?

that would be amazing so good beneficial for the students.


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I have a different opinion here, which you may want to consider carefully.

One URL for all is a waste of your time and energy. There is no reason why each movie cannot have its own URL, with its own form. Once you make one of them, you can duplicate the original (or turn it into a master) and make as many copies as you have movies. Each one gets a unique URL (without relying on the hash – anchor) to differentiate them. Freeway will make these forms all day long, and you won’t have to fuss around with the Multiple Forms Actions.

If you want to provide a single “umbrella” page for the kids to link to any of the movies they choose, then do that separately. Make an unordered list, fill it with all of the movie titles, and link to the individual movie pages. But from the sounds of things, you just need a way to send the kids to a specific page to fill out their response to a specific movie. That argues strongly for one page per movie, in my experience.

Walter

On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Hoffkids wrote:

so to simply get this working…

http://www.hoffkids.com/youtubepractice2.html

I need to use the multiple form suite?

that would be amazing so good beneficial for the students.


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“But from the sounds of things, you just need a way to send the kids to a specific page to fill out their response to a specific movie.”

Yes, that is it. However (and just hear me out), if from the kids point of view, they click a link I send them and it takes them right to the video/form, then why not have all on one page as it easier for me to manage (1 page instead of 50). If I change something or have a new idea I could see all at once instead of flipping thru many pages, etc.

I guess it is personal taste. Seems like both get the job done from the student view but to me, one is easier and more comfortable to manage.

I can;t make a master as the top of the page works off of master 1 heading.

Am I in over my head for the multi form suite?

Walt I always appreciate your perspective and opinion. so nice.

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You can make a separate master for this one (class of) page. Any changes you want to make to all pages would be made there. If you decide to change your header on the “master master” later, you would need to duplicate those changes on the movie form master as well – that’s just the way things go with no inheritance in master pages.

The Multiple Form Suite is really well suited to someone who has written a form by hand (in a text editor) before. It is slightly less well suited to someone who has only ever clicked and dragged in Freeway. Yes, you could probably get on with it, but no, I don’t think it would be easy. You are off in the trees, rather than schussing down the well-groomed trail, with the Ski Patrol keeping a watchful eye on you!

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On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Hoffkids wrote:

I can;t make a master as the top of the page works off of master 1 heading.

Am I in over my head for the multi form suite?


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“You are off in the trees, rather than schussing down the well-groomed trail, with the Ski Patrol keeping a watchful eye on you!”

you are one of a kind


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Walt,

going for multi-form route

so far I have

  1. put my forms in separate HTML containers and applied action to it.

that’s it

not sure what

method
Action:

extd attributes

hidden fields is…

researching this.


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going with separate pages. wooh this is over my head…

you were right.


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Personally I envisioned this is as one page with all the videos on it (although potentially a very heavyweight page). Under each video a link to Anchor to the form at the bottom of the page which includes a picker to select which video is being commented on.

Links to each video could be provided by again using Anchors ie hoffkids.com/videoreview.html#video1

But creating one page per video and duplicating works for me too.

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Hey Dave, I like your input… From an educational point of view, the form being right under the video is utmost importance as the kids can watch, pause, write, continue, respond and not feel they have to traditonally do the watch, then go to a form and respond.

I know the ultimate situation is each video, form under each and all on one page, but I have no idea about this working.

I tried a little bit (have since deleted the page)…

I had 2 html boxes.
Inside each was a table
In each table were different form things like first name, last name, etc.
I applied the multi form action to each html container and then kinda got lost at that point.

Mega javascript errors and what told me to jump ship was how the js errors included all my other pages of my site that used forms so i figured this was much more involved than just the one page I was trying to do this from.

Think we can still do it as needed? I do not want 50 separate pages.


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and not feel they have to traditonally do the watch, then go to a form and respond.

Whats wrong with traditional?

Another option could be creating one form on a separate page (with video picker) and include it in an iframe under each video.

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