[Pro] Download speed?

Does Freeway Pro have any built-in tools that will indicate each web page’s approximate download speed?

If not, is there a third-party application or website that does that?

Thanks!


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On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:07 PM, RavenManiac wrote:

Does Freeway Pro have any built-in tools that will indicate each web page’s approximate download speed?

If not, is there a third-party application or website that does that?

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If you click on the cog menu at the bottom of the Site pane, you can enable the option “Show file sizes”. This will give you a size, in bytes, of each page, including all libraries and resources. Divide by 1,024 to get K, again by 1,024 to get MB. Any page that has not been published will not show its size, because Freeway can’t calculate this dimension until the HTML file is actually published.

You can look around the Web for various benchmarks of what’s considered a “good” size, but take these with a large grain of salt. It all depends (a lot) on your actual audience. How devoted they are, how well-connected, how studly their computers, etc.

And then there’s psychology. If a visitor clicks on a link to a page that clearly says “here’s a gallery of photos of Scarlett Johansson”, they will have an entirely different impression of time and download speed than if they hit your default homepage after typing in your bare URL. For the former, there’s a huge time dilation brought about by their desire to see the linked content. For the latter, they are “outa-there” in mere seconds if nothing appears to convince them otherwise.

Walter

On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:07 PM, RavenManiac wrote:

Does Freeway Pro have any built-in tools that will indicate each web page’s approximate download speed?


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Thanks Walter. Great points as always.

I have several pass-through images which are repeated throughout my website. On every webpage that contains that image, the Site Pane repeats the image size. So, here’s my question.

Once the user views the first webpage, with the common image, aren’t any subsequent page loads which share that image served up much faster?


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On Jan 27, 2012, at 2:01 PM, RavenManiac wrote:

Once the user views the first webpage, with the common image, aren’t any subsequent page loads which share that image served up much faster?

Yes, but you can’t predict local browser behavior w/r/t caches, nor any intermediate cacheing. The estimate in the site pane is conservative, to say the least.

Another thing to realize – if you use any of the Prototype/Scriptaculous goodies (either built in FX Actions or my own Scripty Actions) those gigantic ~300K JavaScript libraries are served from Google’s Content Delivery Network, and have 1 year cache expiration deadlines, so odds are very great that anyone coming to your page will either have that library cached from another site or your site, so you can mentally subtract about 300K from the total.

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The result of a recent Poll on Ideal Page Size was that 64% reckoned that your Page Weight should be kept below 500Kb and 87% below 1Mb. Poll Results: Ideal Page Size | CSS-Tricks - CSS-Tricks

I am in the sub 500Kb camp for a conventional site.

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I was just thinking of the days when pages should be kept under 80k (on dial up)

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The result of a recent Poll on Ideal Page Size was that 64% reckoned that your Page Weight should be kept below 500Kb and 87% below 1Mb. Poll Results: Ideal Page Size | CSS-Tricks - CSS-Tricks

I am in the sub 500Kb camp for a conventional site.

David


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I was just thinking of the days when pages should be kept under 80k (on dial up)

And the scary thing is that it was not that long ago!

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In 1998 and 1999, we were fixated on keeping it below 64K. The things I used to do to images to hit that! I found that it was cheaper size-wise to slice up an image of a woman’s face so I could apply less compression to her eyes and lips, and let everything else go to mush in very low-q JPEG compression. Even the added HTML to support the slices was trivial compared with a screen-sized image at decent res.

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I was just thinking of the days when pages should be kept under 80k (on dial up)

And the scary thing is that it was not that long ago!

D


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Thanks guys. There’s some good info here. :slight_smile:


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Okay, let me make sure I have this right. So if my average (non-Prototype/Scriptaculou) webpage size, as reported by Freeway Pro, is 300,000 bytes then, theoretically, I’m well below the ideal page size, according to the poll Dave shared with us?

300,000/1,024 = 292.97 KB’s

And, I can safely subtract 300K from any pages using the Prototype/Scriptaculous goodies because of Google’s cashing system.

What about pages that contain audio, video, or something like easiForm actions?


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Oops, I meant caching. Sorry.


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Try this: Make a new, blank page, and publish it. You should see a tiny size for the page. Now apply Carousel to the page, and draw two blank HTML boxes on the page. On one, apply the Carousel Action, and on the other, the Carousel Pane Action. You won’t need to configure anything, it should just work. Now publish again, and subtract the first size from this new one. That will give you an accurate number for a page containing Prototype and Scriptaculous Effects.

You can probably safely subtract that from your page size for most “Scripty” pages, although that’s a little simplistic. Anyone who doesn’t have these files cached in their browser will need to download them once, so while you can count on them having them the second time they come to your site, you really can’t completely discount it as you may be the first to serve them.

Walter

On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:50 AM, RavenManiac wrote:

And, I can safely subtract 300K from any pages using the Prototype/Scriptaculous goodies because of Google’s cashing system.


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