[Pro] Exploding fonts sizes!

Hello,

I am using Frewway Pro for the first time to see if I want to use this as the replacement for GoLive 9, though I have paid for the Freeway 5 Pro, after seeing how it renders CSS, I am ready to stop using this program and wish I never bought it. The CSS people I know are laughing at me for buying Freeway, saying that I will never get a good source code from Freeway. So far, I think they are correct. And I am bummed!

This is the site: http://st-petersburg-ramada-inn-hotel-motel-wedding-reception-banquets.com/
All you need to do is increase the font for all hell to brake loose! And I expect that there will be people increasing the font size at times. I can not show this to my client.

Is there a fix other than going back to GoLive 9?

Robert


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I think it comes down to how you build the site in the first place. For instance your site uses lots of absolute positioning (which is the same as dragging and dropping items on a page,) which when font-sizes are enlarged, they don’t hold their shape or their style as they would at their preset sizes. The enlarging process bunches it all together and you’re right it’s gets goofy.

However this isn’t Freeway’s fault because it’s how you’ve built the site that causes the font-size issues.

As far as a quick fix for your problem, there really isn’t something over night, but I suggest you should look into building a “box-model” format site using inline HTML items and that would alleviate any enlarged text issues. It’s really the designer’s issue this time more than Freeway’s generation of the website.

BTW. Love the photos, it’s cold outside here and wouldn’t mind a nice warmup.


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On 6 Mar 2009, 2:27 am, Dan J wrote:

As far as a quick fix for your problem, there really isn’t something over night, but I suggest you should look into building a “box-model” format site using inline HTML items and that would alleviate any enlarged text issues. It’s really the designer’s issue this time more than Freeway’s generation of the website.

I am not sure what you mean by this and can I do this with Freeway? I thought the beauty of Freeway was drop and drag!

BTW. Love the photos, it’s cold outside here and wouldn’t mind a nice warmup.

Thanks! I this site works out!


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HI Rgator
I think what Dan was trying to say was that: as a Web designer you are able to build your site in multiple ways and depending on how you want your site to look like and in what environment it will be viewed influences how you might tackle building it.

Freeway is capable of making really clean efficient webpages using up to the minute and techniques which incorporates the best of CSS, tables, effects, image manipulation, drop and drag functionality etc, but and its a big but, you as the designer are in control over a lot of those capabilities. So for example if you choose to place a 1 meg background in the artwork then Freeway assumes this is what you want. Or if you have placed a text box near a picture and you haven’t chosen to use an inline or box-method of arranging those element then Freeway assumes this is what you want. It cannot second guess what you wold like the site to be. Thats why a forum like tis one exists so people are able to ask for advise and view previous threads that may help. If you would like to describe what you are trying to do, or finish up with. I am sure people would be more than willing to help advise you on how to best tackle the problems or describe the best method of construction and if needed people are always willing to construct simple examples or point you in the right direction.

As far as Freeway not being able to produce clean code, then this is usually banded about by people who don’t use Freeway, and the argument is normally targeted at the inline styles that Freeway uses to generate some of its elements. This is though, not a real argument because it is a perfectly valid way of producing code. In fact in some circumstances, for example e-mailers it is an absolute necessity for as many styles to be as in-lines as possible. As an experiment for people who worry about the code Freeway produces not being clean or valid, if you were to compare the Adobe site with The Freeway site you would find that on the home page alone, the Adobe site would fail with 343 errors!!!. If you were to compare that to the Softpress site it will report back with 0 errors. I have never come across anyone who uses the argument that Freeway generates bad code, is able to explain this.

I hope this helps allay your doubts about Freeways ability to produce good code.

Kindest regards Max


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Or if you have placed a text box near a picture and you haven’t chosen to use an inline or box-method of arranging those element then Freeway assumes this is what you want.

I am not sure what you mean here. Where can I find out more on this? When I lay down the text box, I can not find any options like that.

Thanks!


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On 6 Mar 2009, at 02:50, Rgator wrote:

I am using Frewway Pro for the first time to see if I want to use
this as the replacement for GoLive 9, though I have paid for the
Freeway 5 Pro, after seeing how it renders CSS, I am ready to stop
using this program and wish I never bought it. The CSS people I know
are laughing at me for buying Freeway, saying that I will never get
a good source code from Freeway. So far, I think they are correct.
And I am bummed!

This is the site: <http://st-petersburg-ramada-inn-hotel-motel-wedding-reception-banquets.com/

All you need to do is increase the font for all hell to brake loose!
And I expect that there will be people increasing the font size at
times. I can not show this to my client.

If your CSS friends didn’t tell you WHY your site was breaking apart
when the text is enlarged, then perhaps they don’t know quite as much
as you think they know :slight_smile:

Seriously though, that’s nothing to do with Freeway at all; HTML/CSS
works like that everywhere. If you put a text box with an absolute
position abover a picture or another text box, whem someone enlarges
the text, it will flow over the item below. It’s just the way you’ve
done it. If the text and the picture had been in the same box, as
‘inline’ items, then when you enlarged the text, it would have
‘pushed’ the picture down the page to compensate. As Dan said, I’d do
some Googling on ‘Box Model’ and maybe look at some of the online HTML
schools. And of course, keep asking questions here!

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

http://www.paulbradforth.com


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Hey Robert,

Don’t give up on Freeway already. Once you find out how easy it is to work with, well… and everybody at this list is so helpfull, they will make everything work, well almost :slight_smile:
Maybe this can help you a little bit:
http://www.studioindigo.be/wim/position/


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Hey Robert,

Dan is right what he says about creating the site as a “box model”… If you are not sure how to create a site using this method have a look at:

http://danjasker.blogspot.com/2008/07/fw5-understanding-box-model.html

The two tutorial links should take you step by step through the process. Once you have it all working ok… you may start liking the way Freeway works! Any questions, just ask.

Jon


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