# \[Pro\] Fonts and graphic styles

**URL:** <https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701>\
**Category:** Freeway\
**Created:** [May 1, 2010, 8:27am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701 "2010-05-01T08:27:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bucky\_Edgett1](https://discourse.softpress.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Bucky\_Edgett1](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/Bucky_Edgett1)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 8:27am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701/1 "2010-05-01T08:27:33Z")

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Poor old Sawftpress Towers. I know they’re rueing the day I bought Freeway.

So, I’m experimenting with making some Styles to keep for formatting graphic text in corporate colors and font style. Styles should be…

1. Frutiger Light in WebMustard,
2. Frutiger Roman in WebMustard,
3. Frutiger Roman in WebChocolate.
4. (Among others, but that’s enough to give the idea.)

Can’t figure out how to do this. Every time I try to make styles 1 and 2, they replace each other. I can’t have both. Suspect it’s because FW won’t differentiate between the submenu Frutiger Light and Frutiger Roman. Choosing between the two gives only the Frutiger in the Edit Styles dialog.

Anyone have any idea how this could be done?

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**Author:** ![Keith\_Martin](https://discourse.softpress.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@Keith\_Martin](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/Keith_Martin)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 8:44am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701/2 "2010-05-01T08:44:30Z")

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> Every time I try to make styles 1 and 2, they replace each other

Strange. Are you creating NEW styles, with new names, each time?

In the Styles & Colors palette, choose New Style from the cog wheel  
popup menu. Name this something like FrutigerLightMustard and set the  
Character options as appropriate. Click OK, then make a new style =,  
with a new name, and choose your Roman weight of Frutiger. Click OK.

I just did this and got two separate styles that format graphic text  
as Frutiger Light and Frutiger Roman with no problem. Yes, the main  
font menu in the Styles dialog just shows the font family name, but  
it does remember the particular weight and style that you select.

Try this. It works here, and I’ve done this sort of thing more or  
less forever. 🙂

k

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**Author:** ![Bucky\_Edgett1](https://discourse.softpress.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Bucky\_Edgett1](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/Bucky_Edgett1)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 5:27am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701/3 "2010-05-02T05:27:27Z")

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Well, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle. It worked.

I _think_ the problem was trying to edit already existing temporary styles. Creating new ones from scratch worked a treat.

Although I used the plus-sign button, not the cog wheel. I wanted to add them to my existing sheet.

But here’s a question. Did I want a new sheet for styles that are only graphic? To distinguish them from CSS styles?

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**Author:** ![HeatherKay](https://discourse.softpress.com/user_avatar/discourse.softpress.com/heatherkay/32/66_2.png) [@HeatherKay](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/HeatherKay)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 8:23am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701/4 "2010-05-02T08:23:19Z")

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On 2 May 2010, at 06:27, Bucky Edgett wrote:

> But here’s a question. Did I want a new sheet for styles that are  
> only graphic? To distinguish them from CSS styles?

Nice idea, but Freeway can only handle one sheet at a time.

So, unfortunately, you’ll need to keep all the graphic styles in the  
same sheet as the HTML/CSS ones.

Heather

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**Author:** ![Keith\_Martin](https://discourse.softpress.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@Keith\_Martin](https://discourse.softpress.com/u/Keith_Martin)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701/5 "2010-05-02T13:16:55Z")

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Sometime around 2/5/10 (at 09:23 +0100) Heather Kavanagh said:

> you’ll need to keep all the graphic styles in the same sheet as the  
> HTML/CSS ones.

Don’t even think of things in terms of style sheets, not until you  
hit a positive reason for doing so. Those graphic styles aren’t  
published in the final CSS stylesheet code that’s part of your online  
site.

Give them names to differentiate them from HTML/CSS styles if you  
like. Here’s a thought: putting “GRAPHIC” at the beginning of the  
names will help group them in the Styles list.

k

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701/6 "2010-05-03T04:14:35Z")

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Okey dokey, I’m accustomed to using naming conventions to organize stuff. In fact, amongst a small circle of friends, I’m notorious for obsessively insisting on it.

But, If FW “can’t handle” multiple sheets, why have the cog wheel giving me what seems to be the option to create them? FW does such odd things some times. I can’t keep it all straight.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701/7 "2010-05-03T12:41:39Z")

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> If FW “can’t handle” multiple sheets, why

Never fear, it can handle it. But I didn’t see any particular reason  
for you to work that way. You were talking about styles for graphic  
text, whereas multiple style sheets is, as far as I’m aware, really  
there for juggling CSS styles.

For the record, I don’t think that’s why you were having trouble. I  
suggested not going down the multiple style sheets route because I  
was sure we could come up with a much simpler way for you to get  
things working. 🙂

k

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://discourse.softpress.com/t/pro-fonts-and-graphic-styles/7701/8 "2010-05-03T20:19:02Z")

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> On 3 May 2010, 12:57 pm, thatkeith wrote:
> 
> For the record, I don’t think that’s why you were having trouble. I suggested not going down the multiple style sheets route because I was sure we could come up with a much simpler way for you to get things working. 🙂
> 
> k

Yes, naming conventions will certainly suffice. so thanks for reminding me to get back to my roots.

I’m not nearly expert enough to wrangle multiple CSS style sheets for one site. Inheritance is crazy enough with _one_ sheet active!

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Sometime around 3/5/10 (at 16:19 -0400) Bucky Edgett said:

> Inheritance is crazy enough with _one_ sheet active!

Once you grok it, inheritance is pretty simple. But actually, much of  
the time, I find it simpler not to try to plan for that too much -  
just work more or less as you would in a well-produced print DTP job.  
Sure, web ain’t print. But design is design - and there’s far more  
conceptual overlap than most web-only producers realise.

k

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