[Pro] Help html file names probe

Hello and Help

Ive have been trying to sort my web site out all week I have Three issue but Im sure they are all connected

It looks like what happened is that when I changed the titles, the File Name for the pages also changed. The file name is part of the URL, so if that changes the old page link will not work because there’s a new one. “say’s freeway support”

This is what freeway support have said to do:

There are two options then: You can either change the page file names back to the old ones:
Or you can wait for Google to re-index the site and update the URLs on your search results.

But how do I know which ones are the correct file names to use ?
And how long will google take to re-index my site as this is affection my performance on google and I’m loosing allot of business :frowning:

I’m sure trying to fix’s it back, is the best option but I don’t want to keep uploading broken files.

On my web site www.dogsinline.com the whole site seem to be working fine

Its when I search the site like this: Google
You can see the broken pages mostly at the bottom ( 4 in total ) and the html file names are different and when I go on google webmaster it comes up with the broken pages to: Example Puppy Training | 121 Training | Classes | Sussex | Dogs in line

Also my home page is not coming up any more if I type in key words such as “dog training sussex” i come up on the 4th page on google the 9th one down Google I can’t work out why my landing page has gone, My site have been up for nearly two year as was performing 100% before : (

Please help P.S I hope I make sense :confused:

www.dogsinline.com


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When you change the page titles the file name auto changes to match - make sure the whatverver.html stays to what you need - if you mess with it it will disconnect from the page title and will not change anymore…


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when you see the dead pages on Google copy the URL and add back to the document


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Finnaly set up a 404 page so if they arrive at a sea link it will show a page exalting the page has moved and link back to the home page - like this

http://easthalldesign.com/404.html

heres the ‘how to’


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SORRY - spelling -

Finally set up a 404 page so if they arrive at a dead link it will show a page explaining the page has moved and link back to the home page - like this


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This brings me to a bit of important advice to anyone using Freeway ever. Edit your filenames as a part of your design process. Yes, Freeway makes it easy to get started here – the filename is magically decoded from whatever you put in the title tag, but it’s just a starting point – a suggestion to give you an idea when designing your URLs.

After your Title tag and H1 tag, the actual filename of the page is one of them most SEO-rich targets on your optimization schedule. Once you’ve gotten your basic page structure figured out, and well before Google has had a look at the site, you should – no, read MUST – go through every page in your site, look at the filename, (including any folder names) and follow this process while thinking critically about your content and desired audience.

Read the entire URL out loud.

Give yourself a report card on each page. You get negative 10,000 points for any spaces anywhere in the path, and you get +20 points for each natural-language word as separated by either a slash (meaning it’s a folder), a hyphen (meaning you deliberately broke two words out of the URL) or a dot (meaning you’ve reached the end of the human-readable part, and are now stopping to unequivocally tell the machine how to interpret the file).

So how did you do? Freeway, left to its own devices, will score fairly badly. That’s not its fault, or its developers’. As a fully international product, it cannot begin to guess where the words are in your title, or what’s important to you or the people searching for your site in your native language or theirs. This is part of the design process. Freeway also cannot tell you that those two colors should never overlap one another, or that the tie you’ve chosen will look awful on television.

Optimize the heck out the entire path. But don’t go nuts, as some people do, and try to put all of Dostoyevsky’s works in the Location field – you only get 1,024 characters total in the entire path before some legacy devices will give up and show you the door – er, crash.

Now, once you have made a URL, you should never change it. URLs are (or are supposed to be) forever. Once you make one and publish it to the world, it’s like you’ve signed a contract that you will always provide some meaningful content at that URL.

Here’s where editing these filenames in Freeway gives you freedom to change your mind elsewhere in the page or site. Once you have edited the File field at all, you will have broken the (deliberately fragile) link between the Title and auto-generated File value. Freeway will follow your lead from that point forward. But if you never edit that field, Freeway will continue to do the auto-update behavior, leading to breakage in bookmarks and search engine history. Freeway itself will never write an incorrect (internal) URL anywhere – this is why if you change the title on one page, you may see “dirty page” bullets appear next to every other page in the site – this means that the filename, and thus the URL, changed, and all inbound links need to be rewritten to compensate. Search engines and bookmarks aren’t wired in at that level, and so they don’t get the memo that everything changed.

This is why professionals go to such lengths when designing new URL structures (cautiously, deliberately, aware of the long term impact and risks), to write clever redirects and provide layers of correction. It’s so that a visitor with a bookmark from years ago (or simply linked to you from Wikipedia, as is my current issue with one long-running site) will still find what they are looking for.

Walter

On Jun 7, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Justin Easthall wrote:

SORRY - spelling -

Finally set up a 404 page so if they arrive at a dead link it will show a page explaining the page has moved and link back to the home page - like this


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if I type in key words such as “dog training sussex” i come up on the 4th page on google the 9th one down

Google is not stupid. It is nowadays not enough to have a some Meta Keywords that include dog training and sussex. Keywords are largely ignored.

And Keyword Stuffing - adding a list of places, items etc. that you want to be recognised for at the foot of the page will get you marked down.

If you want to found for that particular search term “dog training sussex” then you will need to hange the real content of your page to include it. ie

‘Sue Venn at dogsinline.com is a professional dog trainer based in Sussex from where she serves clients in the surrounding Counties such as blah, blah…’

Proper text headers on your page(s) can also help ie

Dog Training in Sussex

In general you want lots of relevant text - not graphics - that relates to what you want Google to recognise you for.

David


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SORRY - spelling -

Justin - spelling is obviously letting you down!


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Thank you soooo much so I will:

Change the file names back to the broken pages?

( What will happen to the new file names will google just replace them or could I have the same issues again? )

I will take off all the stuffed keywords and change the html text so google can read it better

set up a 404 page

and put proper text headers on my pages

Thanks again : )


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Hi all back again thank you for the previous advice, I got someone to help me with it as I was a bit out of my depth in correcting the error. The 404 errors have been re directed to the correct pages now which has helped…But I need some options on the next stage as the man I’m using is not keen on using free way at all! And wants to add a CMS.

Now I really really want to use freeway as I did before, but he is saying this is not a good idea as I run the risk of the same issues happening again (which I understand) plus is is saying using freeway long term is not a good idea?

He is fixings the issue by “commanding mod_rewrite module of Apache web server, using a special syntax comprising regular expressions”

Now I’m aware (please correct me if i’m wrong) if I use CMS I won’t be able to use Freeway as before?

This not what I want as I want to work on fixing the issues (If I can) via freeway, I’m not sure if this is even possible?

Please help :frowning:


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This solution has just papered over the problem. If you go into the Page Inspector’s File field on each page in Freeway, you can change the filename to match what the browser is expecting, and the solution will “stick”.

If you are recreating an existing site, and you have a list of all the existing files, you can create those pages and set the filenames to match in Freeway.

Remember – once you have set the File field in the Page Inspector, Freeway will never alter what you entered again, even if you change the Title field to something new and more user-friendly.

Adding a CMS to a Freeway site is a well-solved problem. There are numerous options, ranging from ExpressionEngine to Joomla! to WebYep, and soon, my own Inlay CMS. Adding a CMS doesn’t mean you have to abandon Freeway at all.

One thing I will say is that many traditional developers (particularly those whose customary scope of work consists of deploying Wordpress, checking a few boxes, and calling that development) look at Freeway as a black box that they cannot control. From a certain perspective, they are correct. But in the hands of someone who knows what Freeway is and can do, it represents a powerful way to build a CMS template that truly abstracts the presentation from the content – which is and should always be the ultimate goal of the “CMS-ification” process. That way you can retain control over the way it looks, while the developer manages how it behaves.

Walter

On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Sue wrote:

Hi all back again thank you for the previous advice, I got someone to help me with it as I was a bit out of my depth in correcting the error. The 404 errors have been re directed to the correct pages now which has helped…But I need some options on the next stage as the man I’m using is not keen on using free way at all! And wants to add a CMS.

Now I really really want to use freeway as I did before, but he is saying this is not a good idea as I run the risk of the same issues happening again (which I understand) plus is is saying using freeway long term is not a good idea?

He is fixings the issue by “commanding mod_rewrite module of Apache web server, using a special syntax comprising regular expressions”

Now I’m aware (please correct me if i’m wrong) if I use CMS I won’t be able to use Freeway as before?

This not what I want as I want to work on fixing the issues (If I can) via freeway, I’m not sure if this is even possible?

Please help :frowning:


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