[Pro] html email issues

Having issues with html emails showing correctly in Outlook 2007 on PCs and gmail (of course… the ever irritating culprit). I am using UltraCart for our ecommerce and they have a great autoresponders and email campaign system. I am copying my html into their system. I am using Firefox and Firebug to get my html (surely there’s a better way?)

Have been reading about inline CSS and boxes… am now thoroughly confused as to the best path for correction and future production.

http://www.theranchdog.com/trophydog.html

Thanks so much.


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If that page has the code you are using in your HTML email then the first glaring problem is that your image links are Relative ie Resources/myimage.jpeg rather than Absolute like www.mywebsite/Resources/myimage.jpeg

Relatively linked images will not appear in an email client of any sort.

David


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I have fixed those. Images are
http://www.theranchdog.com/resources/pagename.html

Everything is showing up fine… just not where it’s suppose to.

Thanks so much for your help.
Darlene

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If that page has the code you are using in your HTML email then the first
glaring problem is that your image links are Relative ie
Resources/myimage.jpeg rather than Absolute like
www.mywebsite/Resources/myimage.jpeg

Relatively linked images will not appear in an email client of any sort.

David


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Everything is showing up fine… just not where it’s suppose to.

The safest way to create an HTML email is to use the lowest common denominator ie HTML 3.2 (no Divs) - you are then less likely to get things displayed incorrectly in email clients.

Have you updated the page that you linked to above with the absolute paths?

D


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for real success in html email you must
use the box model,
avoid using helvetica, - it won’t render properly in some email clients
I also suggest spending the couple of dollars to run it through
http://www.emailonacid.com so you can see what happens in every email
client and get helpful suggestions to resolve the problem

On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Darlene Miller wrote:

I have fixed those. Images are
http://www.theranchdog.com/resources/pagename.html

Everything is showing up fine… just not where it’s suppose to.

Thanks so much for your help.
Darlene

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On 7/6/11 3:04 PM, “DeltaDave” email@hidden wrote:

If that page has the code you are using in your HTML email then
the first
glaring problem is that your image links are Relative ie
Resources/myimage.jpeg rather than Absolute like
www.mywebsite/Resources/myimage.jpeg

Relatively linked images will not appear in an email client of any
sort.

David


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Okay. Changing it to 3.2 messes a few things up. In particular, my HTML
text located on top of my graphic has gone white. The text is still there
when I click on it, but just shows a white box otherwise. I’ll try and
work on that and see what happens. Any thoughts however to make my
nightmare go away will be appreciated!!! :slight_smile:

Yes, everything should be updated… looks like this now.

http://www.theranchdog.com/Resources/bestfriendemailimg.jpeg

It’s beautiful in Outlook on my MAC! :slight_smile: But not Outlook 2007 PC or
gmail… etc. All the difficult ones. And I’m not a coder, so some of
these things that I’m sure are simple to others drive me to drink!

Thanks so much…

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On 7/6/11 3:29 PM, “DeltaDave” email@hidden wrote:

Everything is showing up fineŠ just not where it¹s suppose to.

The safest way to create an HTML email is to use the lowest common
denominator ie HTML 3.2 (no Divs) - you are then less likely to get
things displayed incorrectly in email clients.

Have you updated the page that you linked to above with the absolute
paths?

D


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Yes, everything should be updated… looks like this now.

http://www.theranchdog.com/Resources/bestfriendemailimg.jpeg

Getting a 404 from that link.

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It is safe to use xHTML 1.0 Transitional as your DOC TYPE if you use the HTML Email Action in FW 5.5.

Just make sure you turn off the “Blue Button” so it says “Table Layout” underneath it. Then the whole thing is written in tables.


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Just make sure you turn off the “Blue Button” so it says “Table Layout” underneath it. Then the whole thing is written in tables.

Agreed, but if you use HTML 3.2 then you cannot create anything but a “Table Layout” construction.

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And thanks to Ginjg for the Email on Acid link.

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@DeltaDave, but if you set the DOC TYPE to anything less than HTML 4 you can’t use the HTML Email Action.

It has to be HTML 4 or above. Without that action and a useable DOC TYPE you’re up a creek when it comes to developing emails in FW.


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Yes, but you’re all forgetting the golden rule: http://doeshtmlbelonginemail.com

Walter

On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Dan J wrote:

@DeltaDave, but if you set the DOC TYPE to anything less than HTML 4
you can’t use the HTML Email Action.

It has to be HTML 4 or above. Without that action and a useable DOC
TYPE you’re up a creek when it comes to developing emails in FW.


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@Waltd-- So are you an advocate of plain text emails? OR do you prefer not to partake of the complications in creating emails?

I’d be on the fence with both, but that’s just me.


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Dan said

if you set the DOC TYPE to anything less than HTML 4 you can’t use the HTML Email Action.

Sure - but there is more than 1 method to create an HTML email and the Remote Resources action goes a long way to helping, especially if you are creating something fairly simple.

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I am an advocate of writing really well, and styling not at all. A
really well written plain text e-mail will do two things for you that
no HTML message can guarantee: 1. It will get delivered, since it will
have a much lower inherent spam score. 2. It will engage the mind –
and imagination – of your prospect.

While shiny design can generate a limbic response that is entirely
lacking in ASCII, it’s also become entirely too common, and therefore
expected by the prospect. A well written text mail is a razor-honed
stiletto compared with the meat axe of HTML, and the modern consumer’s
defenses are entirely useless against it…

Walter

On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Dan J wrote:

@Waltd-- So are you an advocate of plain text emails? OR do you
prefer not to partake of the complications in creating emails?

I’d be on the fence with both, but that’s just me.


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Here’s an example (written by Ernest Hemingway) that sums up precisely
what I’m talking about here. Read the following (very short) sentence.

For sale: baby shoes – never worn.

What just happened in your brain is magic – magic that a well-wrought
photo of a teary-eyed woman with a stock-photo-land husband out of
focus over her right shoulder, his left hand (and wedding ring) on her
left shoulder and his chin dipped down just so could approach – but
never equal entirely.

A whole lifetime of love and grief is collapsed into that sentence.
(Hemingway once said that he considered it the best thing he had ever
written.) The effect it can have is so stunning, it reminds me of that
scene in Ratatouille where the snooty critic eats his first bite of
the titular dish and is instantly catapulted back to his childhood.

It’s old school, to be sure. But there’s no school like old school.

Walter

On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

I am an advocate of writing really well, and styling not at all.


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@DeltaDave

Either or I suppose. So you would have to use a DOC TYPE of HTML 3.2 if you don’t have FW 5.5 and HTML 4.01 Transitional or above if you do use the Create Email action in FW 5.5+. BUT not both at the same time.

Just for those who may come across this thread in the future.


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