[Pro] Is this the best way (password...)

Hi all,
I know this topic is popular and I have read all the posts.
I am using the cpanel on host to protect pages.

here is my situation.
I have 4 pages that I need to protect. Each page is for a different parent.
I understand that I must make a new folder (directory) for protected pages.
If I let the parents pick the password, am I right in understanding then I will have to make a new folder/directory for every parent? that could be annoying and take up much room in site panel.

If I make one username and password and put all 4 different parent pages in that directory, than i guess it is ok for them to all have the same username and pword, I just would have to make the URL some random crazy thing so no parent would know the url of other families.

Also since I would not memorize the url and like from time to time to go into the page, I will have to hyperlink it somewhere so even I can get to it.

Does this sound like I am going about this correctly?

I also noticed once on the password protected webpage, I could copy the URL, close browser , open and just paste in url and bypassed the pword. I thought it needed it everytime. I even cleared the cache in safari, and pasted the url and went right to page- no pword prompt. not a big deal- just trying to learn.

thanks for any response/tips to make things easy with this important aspect of web page mgmt…

Barry


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If you want them to have unique passwords then create a separate folder for each parent.

that could be annoying and take up much room in site panel.

But remember you do not have to show each folder as ‘open’ in the site panel.

Alternatively you could have a completely separate FW doc just for these parent pages and keep it apart from your main one. Just change the upload path in the new doc to hoffkids.com/subfolder/

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On Jan 25, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Hoffkids wrote:

Hi all,
I know this topic is popular and I have read all the posts.
I am using the cpanel on host to protect pages.

here is my situation.
I have 4 pages that I need to protect. Each page is for a different parent.
I understand that I must make a new folder (directory) for protected pages.
If I let the parents pick the password, am I right in understanding then I will have to make a new folder/directory for every parent? that could be annoying and take up much room in site panel.

If I make one username and password and put all 4 different parent pages in that directory, than i guess it is ok for them to all have the same username and pword, I just would have to make the URL some random crazy thing so no parent would know the url of other families.

Also since I would not memorize the url and like from time to time to go into the page, I will have to hyperlink it somewhere so even I can get to it.

That’s one way to handle this, probably a lot simpler than setting up an actual login system that protects individual pages…

Does this sound like I am going about this correctly?

I also noticed once on the password protected webpage, I could copy the URL, close browser , open and just paste in url and bypassed the pword. I thought it needed it everytime. I even cleared the cache in safari, and pasted the url and went right to page- no pword prompt. not a big deal- just trying to learn.

On a Mac, the only way to “kill” a security session is to quit the browser entirely. On a PC, just closing a window will do the trick.

Walter

thanks for any response/tips to make things easy with this important aspect of web page mgmt…

Barry


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Thanks guys,

I guess this is the best I will get and I wish the folder I made with protected pages did not have to be at the bottom of 75 pages.

Dave,

the reason or not making a diff fw doc is just the ease of having the protected pages where I have all my pages.
I literally go into the protected pages 4-8 times per day for some edit.

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I literally go into the protected pages 4-8 times per day for some edit.

All the more reason to have a standalone doc that is faster to navigate, save, edit and upload.

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the reason or not making a diff fw doc

I think that you are missing the point. By all means have the protected folder in your main FW doc.

However in a standalone doc that contains all the parent pages you can set the upload path to be into the protected folder.

ie hoffkids.com/protected-folder/

So when you upload all the files go straight into the protected folder (site folder)

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so flip between 2 different FW docs? Always keep 2 documents open?
Is that actually easier than just having the protected folder with 4 pages inside at the bottom of the site panel?


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Dave,
I had a feeling I would have a small issue with some graphics not showing because of this new folder, and tried to understand it from what I read, but so far all the graphics appeared surprisingly except just 1.

where the 1 graphic was, there is a box with a broken piece of paper.
Can you please tell me what I need to do?
This graphic is in my Images folder with my other 10,000 images for the entire hoffkids website.

thanks,

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where the 1 graphic was, there is a box with a broken piece of paper. Can you please tell me what I need to do?

Not without seeing the page in question.

so flip between 2 different FW docs? Always keep 2 documents open

Only you can tell what will be easier for you. You say that you may have edits in the protected pages 4-8 times per day. How many in the rest of your site? 1, none - does it need to be open at all?

For sure a 4 page doc is going to open/save/upload in seconds - think how long it takes when you make a style change in your main FW doc.

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Hey Dave,

Focusing on the graphic thing for a second, wasn’t it expected there would be this graphic issue since the directory with the page is now new?

I also do not have any index.html thing in this directory, just the 1 protected page for now.

I read this multiple times but because just 1 picture is not working it’s confusing.


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i right clicked on other images in the protected page and saw it say “…/resources/basketball.jpg” and …/resources/boat.jpg"

but for the one not working it says “resources/paidyes.jpg”

the dots and / before resources are not there.


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OH, I know why!!!

it wasn’t a .jpg or .png… it was something I made with buttons in another page of my FW document and copied and pasted it in the protected page because I wanted the quality to be great.

hmmmm


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ok dave,

I figured it out, the graphic did not have a .png extension on it for some reason. I believe I made this in FW and exported it as a .png, but the file name did not have .png.

think I fixed it.


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OMG YES! You have 10-12 Actions on each of the pages in the rest of your site, and you have a very fussy layout going on in there. If you are creating a simple table showing a student’s progress, then you will find it much easier to work in a document dedicated to just those pages. This fixes something very important automatically. Let me explain.

Freeway takes great pains to never duplicate any files. If you use an image on one of your protected pages, and then later make a second instance of that file on one of your public files, then anyone who is not logged in who visits that public page will get a security prompt in order to view that protected image or other asset.

As Dave has pointed out, all of these can point into the same actual set of folders on your server. In your main document, create the folders you want to have the sub-document populate, but do not put any pages in those folders. Just leave them empty. In your sub-document(s), set the upload folder to be /htdocs/sub-folder (whatever the actual path should be). This makes Freeway aware that the subfolder is the “root” folder, above which no request may be made. So it will create links to the copy of the resource inside the protected folder, and not to a version in the public folder.

Walter

On Jan 25, 2014, at 8:48 PM, Hoffkids wrote:

so flip between 2 different FW docs? Always keep 2 documents open?
Is that actually easier than just having the protected folder with 4 pages inside at the bottom of the site panel?


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Walt.
I cannot imagine using the same image on my public site as the protected ones since the protected ones are for something different.

I will try it out since both you guys think it is best.

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I point that out merely as an example of the sort of hidden trouble you can get into using one Freeway document for two different security realms. My advice is, whenever you use a protected folder, use one Freeway document per protected folder. So if you have set up two secure sub-folders within your main folder, you would need at minimum three Freeway documents to manage that one composite site. Stray from this advice at your distinct peril.

Walter

On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Hoffkids wrote:

Walt.
I cannot imagine using the same image on my public site as the protected ones since the protected ones are for something different.

I will try it out since both you guys think it is best.

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you got it.

and love the OMG from you Walt.

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